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tigershark:
In there confirmed reports on Venezuela buying Mig-29Ms I thought that was pre-Flanker time? Venezuela air force could replace their Mirage 5/50s with Su-39s at least in the attack and anti-shipping roles too.
Belarus in 1998 aircraft sale to Peru
I read that Russia was slightly involved in the Su-25 portion of the sale I guess for spare parts or maybe service but not the Mig-29 Fulcrums. Was it just because Belarus lower prices or were their other reasons. I used to know somebody from Peru's air force who told me that the Peru's AF like the Fulcrums from Belarus better then the three SE models bought from Russia directly. I can't think of what he said but there was something on the Belarus Fulcrums that didn't come on the SE models from Russia but to be honest I can't remember what it was any ideas?.
Is Belarus capable of upgrading Fulcrums themselves or is some Russian involvement still needed?
Does Belarus have more Fulcrums to see?
Thanks
Sergei:
Unfortunately, all electronics established on Belarus MiG-29BM is Russian. For this reason, Belarus cannot is completely independent spend modernization of fighters MiG-29, no less than modernization of fighters Su-27UB.
As to replacement of fighters-bombers Mirage-50 of Air Force of Venezuela... I consider all, that they will be replaced by fighters Su-35 and Su-35UB because Su-39's it is supposed to replace light aircraft OV-10A and Ov-10E which are based on an air base in city Maracaibo.
As if to deliveries aircraft technicians Belarus in Peru actually Russia in 1999 has put Peru 3 fighters MiG-29SE (an export variant of fighter MiG-29S). Their number has reached 21 units, however 2 fighters put by Belarus in 1998 were wrecked. Thus, as of January, 1st, 2007 the structure of Air Forces of Peru included not 21, but 19 fighters MiG-29S/SE/UB. However in a condition there are only several fighters.
At me such question: how many Venezuelan fighters F-16A and F-16B are in a good condition? In fact, the USA some years do not deliver Venezuela spare parts for these fighters. I somewhere read, that deliveries of spare parts have stopped almost right after attempts of overthrow Ugo Chavez.
I know, that it is a little not in a theme, but... Yesterday in weekly telecast Ugo Chavez has declared, that between Russia and Venezuela the contract on delivery to Venezuela 5000 sniper rifles Dragunov (calibre 7.62) SVD is signed. Cost of the contract makes about 10 million dollars (will be delivered not only rifles, but also, naturally, patrons to them). Besides it became known, that Belarus will put Venezuela of 150 thousand sights of night vision for АК-103 which Russia has put Venezuela.
Here so.
tigershark:
Hi Sergei
There was something on the Fulcrums from Belarus that the Peruvians liked more then the SE Fulcrums bought from Russia directly. The guy I knew his e-mail is bouncing back so I can't asked him.
Mirage 50 fighter-bomber > If you take away the top speed of the Mirage 50 the Su-25/39 does more overall and is more modern as well. I'm a firm believer in not putting a $60 million dollar Flanker in a close ground support mission down low if I don't have too. A Su-25 does that job well and with some newer upgrades use a number of stand-off weapons too.
Sergei let me ask you a question would it be cheaper for a country like Peru to more Fulcrums from Belarus and have Russia or Israel to upgraded them or just go Russian from the beginning?
Sergei:
I consider, that available Peru 19 MiG-29 it is necessary to repair and modernize in MiG-29SMT in Russia. The matter is that Israelis cannot lead major overhaul Peruvian MiG-29's. And for modernization of one MiG-29 Israel, most likely, will request not less than 10 million dollars. And on quality the fighter modernized by Israelis hardly will have higher fighting efficiency, rather than MiG-29SMT. Cost of modernization MiG-29 in MiG-29SMT makes 7 million dollars. Thus, if to make simple mathematical calculation, it turns out, that Peru will pay Russia of 190 million dollars for major overhaul and modernization of 19 fighters.
As to the Belarus variant of modernization... It would be also a good variant.
terminator:
Peru's Air force are in some serious need of modernization sadly very few of our mig-29's actually fly or are fit for combat same thing with our mirages ,luckily the peruvian armed forces put the FAP (peruvian air force)modernization and expansion as their priority.btw sergei,nonpilot are you guys south american? you sure know alot about the subject
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