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Offline Eldorado82

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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 02:32:59 AM »
some great pics of a friend of mine year 2004.
the presence of ladies with men sometimes cools the tension down
PS: i would NEVER let my soldiers to treat electromechanic part like she does on the floor...
I always working paying attention to the standarts and work orders that are on the spot  :police:
and not to remind that these blue outfits are sometimes worn just over underclothes-- HOT weather in the summer- around 100F.. :o
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2009, 02:48:36 AM »
hey folks..
since i again dived into the world if military aviation- read a biography of one of our pilots and got a strong urge to fine military aviation forum(which one i found of course :) I writing an essay about Air force in general and IAF in particulatry.ill add part by part here..waiting for remarks, critics and stuff like that.
thanks in advance FSgt David

..acieving air superiority above the ground of battlefield is the main target for IAF as well as for any Air Force in the world, although  the definition of the " air superiority" has gone trough lots of changes over the years of development of the aviation...

Roles of the plane significally changed since the first plane sliced the sky of war between Italy and Turkey on land of Lybia in 1911. first use of plane included attack and scouting. at the WWI the plane was used mainly for helping the artilery corpses in ranging their fire. Shortly after that planes were already carrying amunition in order to prevent the pilots of an enemy to make quite the same thing- to scout on them. next upgrate came quickly- hand-thrown and hand-ignited bombs that were thrown from the early planes to hit the ground forces. few monts after pilots had found a new toy on their machines- machine gun that was firing straightforward. Of course there was the problem of bullets hitting the propellor.the answer for
that was a syncronized machine guns that were firing "trough" the propellor. the way to the engine installed in the back of plane and getting the jet engine on the plane was short. and here we had- the fist jet plane (Heinkel He 178) came tearing the sky in his shrike.
the desighners and engineers of these flying machince were asked to get the plane quicker- to get INTO and FROM the battle field at quickest speed,huge range for tactic missions and high manuvering ability- to get away from his enemies in dogfight, and lots of lifting power- to carry as much of ammunition as they could.
these standards are the priority of every plane desighner and engineer untill today...
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2009, 05:28:33 AM »
some great pics of a friend of mine year 2004.
the presence of ladies with men sometimes cools the tension down
PS: i would NEVER let my soldiers to treat electromechanic part like she does on the floor...
I always working paying attention to the standarts and work orders that are on the spot  :police:
and not to remind that these blue outfits are sometimes worn just over underclothes-- HOT weather in the summer- around 100F.. :o


I wish the women I worked with looked like that!
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2009, 07:25:34 AM »
by the way folks: in many places and sources is being thought that IAF is The superior force with very strong technical behaviour.But in one of my previously attached pics you can see a lady works on a piece of helicopter on concrete floor. as you might know this is strictly forbidden- to work on aircraft part on the floor. Second remark about is that the connector is not closed by plastic cap to prevent any dirt coming in..and the shrink is not fully worn over the wires. This maybe a technical change of somekind but from the standard (IPC 610D) point of view that kind of shrinking the tube is forbidden specially in the life-matter systems such as aircrafts and medical equipment (class 3 in the IPC610D standard).
IAF has very strict technical behaviour: each and any instrument is numbered and every stock of instruments is marked with its unique code. When you take instruments to the aircraft the tool must be passed in the system that you've taken it to a aicraft you work on and when you finish the work, the tools are numbered. for example, a aircraft can't leave its leave the line without the presence of all the tools in the tool-room is checked and sighned in the computer by 2 persons.
the laws about TO's and tools are very strict...cause  hey we are working on machines that lift people into air. sometimes there are fault and unfortunally they are fatal- at least for aircraft. one of the aircrafts i crewed got a engine cut and falled at the Dov Mt. the problem was that i was sighned at least 350 times on the aircraft after a PM of 750 flight hours...
the most frightening second was when the secretary of the AFB commander captain Einav called me for an emergency meeting with brigadier-general A. (cant write even his name bacause he is active pilot)/ when i came to his office we had a harsh talk for about 4 hours about the maintenance procedures that the plane was at. Lucky as I am , i was the one who was down at the line to accept the pilot and to get the place to the runaway ( strapping the pilot, engine ignition, all the checks before the "last chance" and so on )...in the result there was nothing technicall the J-52 got a engine cut above Mt Dov and the pilot ejected. i was in terror for 5 hours,imagining my self locked in a military prison and discarded to a private...but i was not guilty they found a big crack ( about 27 milimeters-abt 0.708 inch) in a low pressure compressor blades. Dont know whether there is a connection between that and the reason the plane crashed but the specialists that arrived to the crash site released in the official report that that might be a reason. I saw the engine compressed in about of a 1\3 of its lenght because of the impact
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2009, 08:16:01 AM »
Welcome  :)
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2009, 10:08:12 AM »
thanks...seems that you've late a bit:) been here for a while already..but anyway THANKS, TODA RABA!
by the way i was born and raised in Lithuania:)
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2009, 03:21:16 AM »
That's quite a first nightmare come true for a maintainer. Luckily the pilot was able to eject and it was not your fault.
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2009, 11:35:25 AM »
some interesting detail: in the last solo flight of the Pilot course the same pilot 9 well then he was only a cadett) after parking in the line accidentally pulled the emergency canopy ejection handle instead of normal... I've been there too..
seems like every bad experience that happened with the skyhawks I was there... ;D
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2009, 12:17:57 PM »
for example another incident where i was involved: a bird got into the engine of an A-4N during the final approach. Myself, for being a young soldier was sent there to get that crushed bird from the air intake\ engine air intake. Oh almost forgot to tell: the plance stood under the sun in august for 48 hrs before we arrived there...
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2009, 12:52:12 PM »
yesterday I've met a friend of mine my Ex collegue and one of my commanders. he was amongs the establishers of the final 102 sq., after a frienly talk on cup of coffee he told me that he finally retires the IAF after about 34 years of service.
that made me think that if we, that serve year-two-three-five, and we miss it too much..what he can say?

the rank is something like CMSgt (Chief Master Seargeant) in the Us army.
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2009, 01:50:04 PM »
Maybe at some point one has enough of the strict command lines, get bored with the work, or has enough to look back on and say "been there, done that". Of course, he'll also miss it, but different level than you.
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Re: Israel's IAF- A Look From Inside
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2009, 02:01:06 PM »
Maybe at some point one has enough of the strict command lines, get bored with the work, or has enough to look back on and say "been there, done that". Of course, he'll also miss it, but different level than you.


people like Ilan didn't had any strict command lines or got bored with the work....
but he is a great man indeed
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