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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #108 on: October 14, 2006, 10:47:32 AM »
Ah. dogfight. F-16s are manuverable enough, no?
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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2006, 10:50:10 AM »
they are good, but a Gripen can out manoeuvre them easily, because i somehow think that a F-16 will rip itself to pieces if it tried a 9g manoeure! ;)

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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #110 on: October 14, 2006, 10:55:26 AM »
They are 9g capable. lol. Well, if you consider the larger lift-load of the F-16 to the Gripen... he he  ;D
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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #111 on: October 14, 2006, 11:01:54 AM »
fair enough, but dont forget to count in the pilots

a good pilot versus a great pilot- i know who i would bet on :P

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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #112 on: October 14, 2006, 11:14:15 AM »
Manfred von Richthofen vs you. i'd bet on The red baron. sure as death.
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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #113 on: October 14, 2006, 11:18:57 AM »
erm, id vote for me

simply because the Red baron would have trouble dog fighting with his obvious handicap

being dead and all ;)

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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #114 on: October 14, 2006, 11:22:51 AM »
Let's assume he's alive and kicking.
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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #115 on: October 15, 2006, 07:33:46 PM »
the whole program is stupid- i think the whole stealth principal is

there is no true stealth attack plane (the U2 could be considered a stealth, so is the Blackbird, but they couldnt blow stuff up)

the most stealthy plane normally (F-22 and JSF dont because they are stealth until they open their bomb bay doors) would have to be a Gripen or Rafale, with the Eurofighter close behind

Actually, like Valiant1 said, thats only a split second...not even a whole second...its just like WAM!..all the enemy sees is a very, very small blip...not even for the eye to see unless your really, really paying very close attention and you might see it for 0.10 seconds and then it will be in a completely different location.

And about the three other planes, thats just nonsense...not trying to be mean, but it is  :-\.

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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #116 on: October 16, 2006, 08:45:09 AM »
No stealth capability in the Gripen, Eurofighter and Rafale. They all have exterior mounted hardpoints, so you'd be able to see the weapons even if the airframe was a stealth one.
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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #117 on: October 16, 2006, 08:51:52 AM »
yes

but the Gripen, Rafale and Typhoon all have low radar feedbacks, except for the weapons. they have RAM on them, and a system thing that makes it harder for heat seekers to lock onto the exhaust

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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #118 on: October 16, 2006, 08:53:51 AM »
Still, an F-22 would be invisible, while, if the 3 were flying fully armed, they would look as stealthy as a lighthouse to the enemy.
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Re: Which Air Force is Best?
« Reply #119 on: October 16, 2006, 08:55:48 AM »
correct me if i am wrong, but dosent the F35 have hardpoints on its wings?

the raptor dosent need them as its not an attacker, more defender

 



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