Future of dogfighting

[Viggen]

It had something to do with mistaken IFF, The Aegis had by accident  identified the passangerplane as an Iranian F14.  Anyway, that gunship idea is not bad at all. Think of a squadron of B2´s with that firepower, no sane pilot would volunteer for that mission against the B2´s, and as you said. A couple of F22´s for protection and to clean and sweep up the rest.

But if you have a really good stealth aircraft you could actually take the B2´s out before they can get a lock on you. Since B2 is a stealth. You would probaly need to get close and use the gun. So then we are back to the good old fashioned dogfighting. 

[RecceJet]

http://www.milavia.net/forum/index.php?topic=644.msg6227#msg6227
Check out my ultimate fighter specs, covers this exact kind of airframe!

Airframe: Northrop B-2 Spirit
Radars: default
Engines: default
Avionics: default
Weapons: redesign current bomb-bays to multiple Vertical Launch Systelm (VLS) with modular launch canisters to take Python V and Meteor amongst others. Also retaining a small bomb-bay to carry AGM-142s and JDAMs internally since this feak-show airframe will probably catch its opponents on the ground.

All targeting information and missile guidance will be handled by AWACs or other airframes (refer to Tom Clancy stories) eliminating the need for my F/B-2 Spirit "I'm-Going-To-Crap-All-Over-Your-Air-Order-of-Battle" super-dooper fighter to light up any radars for target acquisition.

Additional pop-up launchers for Python V will be fitted along the wings to pop-up both above and below and have rotating turrets to take care of any stray opponent fighters.

Essentially, you could see this monster of a fighter aircraft as an aerial version of an Ohio class SSBN. It just flies into enemy airspace undetected and gives the opposition a bloody nose.


PS. I may have stretched the realm of reality a little to compensate for engineering shortcomings

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[valkyrian]

I am beggining to like the idea of the B/F-2 Spirit....those rotating gun turrets, like the good old B-17, should do a great job....

in fact, the B-17's managed to down more enemy fighters than the escorting fighters they have with them..

[Globetrotter]

Hey valkyrian, you maybe want to design your own aircraft in that thread!!

It will be great to see yours....

[valkyrian]

Thanx Thomas! Point is who will be brave enough to test fly it.....

Now that the Gunship concept has been thrown to the table, does anyone know what is the status of the airborne laser? Imagine that 747, or a whole armada of them, able to fire laser beams and shoot down everything...Sort of "Battleship Gallactica" or"Star Wars" thing, but the airborne laser is a reality.

[Raptor]

How about the 747, then? We could save maybe a billion bucks. I had a really nice reply typed out, then accidentally closed it and i don't want to type it again.

[terminator]

hello everyone its been a long time ,well back to the topic i think the *future* is counter-measure systems cause all the other stuff is being achieved ,but new ways to counter enemy weapons will change dogfights as for stealth i think ppl think the plane goes invisible ,well no it doesnt it ALMOST invisible in radar ,but once an enemy fighter sees u  u got trouble ,of course stealth gives u the chance to attack first ,but as i said b4 counter-measures is the future

[Gripen]

i thought the future  were unmaned drones..

[Raptor]

Hm... Yeah, i thought so too. But that takes away quite a bit of fun from it, huh? I mean, it's not every day you get to pull 9Gs and get paid for it...

Ah... term. I have this great new invention on my fighter now known as the 0.5in cannon. Ahm... Twice your speed, stealth and manueverability. You going to project a wierd magnetic field somewhere else to pull the bullets there?

[Viggen]

Unmanned drones are a slap in the face for every aviation lover and pilot on earth. Dont get me started on those manless machines...

I actually got to think of something else that has to do with the future of dogfighting. Propulsion! Does anyone  here know what the latest is in terms of engines and fuel? Oil is about to run out and it poisons out planet. Will aircraft take the same turn as cars, runned on ethanol, electric or gas for the future? 

[Globetrotter]

I don't know... aircraft need HUGHE amounts of power! Maybe Hydrogen is a way out... but it is extremly dangerous too

[Viggen]

Thats what i was searching for, huge amount of power!  Will we see a drop in preformance in the future?