MILAVIA Forum - Military Aviation Discussion Forum

Author Topic: Future of dogfighting  (Read 99418 times)

Offline Flanker.94

  • Flight Leader
  • ***
  • Posts: 78
  • Country: ca
Future of dogfighting
« on: April 12, 2007, 05:51:18 PM »
What is the future of dogfighting? Your vote counts.
It's time to dive in the fireworks!

Offline Cobra2

  • Hero of Flight
  • ******
  • Posts: 794
  • Country: us
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2007, 11:23:47 PM »
I voted supermanuevrability  :) And welcome to the forum Flanker! (I know I'm a little late   :P)
As we all see with the Typhoon, F-22, Su-27/35/37 etc. supermanuevrability is becoming very important.  :)

Offline Viggen

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: se
  • We are not promised a tomorrow.
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 05:47:44 PM »
I actually think stealth will be the more important. The development of new missiles, BVR combined with very high speed, then only stealth will save your aircraft and possibly your life.  If you dont see the threat then it dosent matter how manueverbal your aircraft is.  ::)

Pesonally i wish it would be speed insted, but reality wants something diffrent.  ;)
  • Interests: SAAB 37 Viggen
Patrik S.

Offline Flanker.94

  • Flight Leader
  • ***
  • Posts: 78
  • Country: ca
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 05:48:44 PM »
I agree with you.
It's time to dive in the fireworks!

Offline Flanker.94

  • Flight Leader
  • ***
  • Posts: 78
  • Country: ca
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2007, 01:58:07 AM »
I think it is a little bit speed and maneuvrability, because you have to be fast to escape from enemies and maneuvrability to avoid missiles.
It's time to dive in the fireworks!

Offline Flanker.94

  • Flight Leader
  • ***
  • Posts: 78
  • Country: ca
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2007, 02:56:30 AM »
Who voted for stealth and why??
It's time to dive in the fireworks!

Offline Viggen

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: se
  • We are not promised a tomorrow.
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2007, 08:02:53 PM »
I voted for stealth and my post says why.  ;)
  • Interests: SAAB 37 Viggen
Patrik S.

Offline alyster

  • Hero of Flight
  • ******
  • Posts: 523
  • Country: ee
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2007, 10:43:31 PM »
If anything from them, then speed.

Ace of aces, Adolf Galland once said that in the future fighters will only chase bombers at super sonic speed. He added that the planes are controlled from some sort of a bunker far away. So speed.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

Offline Flanker.94

  • Flight Leader
  • ***
  • Posts: 78
  • Country: ca
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 01:30:12 AM »
Inthe Vietnam war, the American fighters were fast and not maneuvrable and were shot down. So, what do you say?
It's time to dive in the fireworks!

Offline Cobra2

  • Hero of Flight
  • ******
  • Posts: 794
  • Country: us
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 02:02:20 AM »
Um, Operation Bolo. A squadron of F-4 Phantoms shot down half of the NVA's MiG-21 force in that day. A squadron against a bunch of MiG-21s.

Offline Gripen

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1390
  • Country: au
  • WHATEVER YOUR PAST, THE FUTURE IS GRIPEN!
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 10:43:22 AM »
Um, the F-4s had better pilots and had good intel and stuff, so its kind of hard to compare them

Offline Viggen

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: se
  • We are not promised a tomorrow.
Re: Future of dogfighting
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 09:22:38 PM »
However both the Mig 15 and 17 would do circles around the F4 Phantom.  :)
  • Interests: SAAB 37 Viggen
Patrik S.

 



AVIATION TOP 100 - www.avitop.com click to vote for MILAVIA