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Title: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: HaveBlue on September 17, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Very sad news day, Jimmy Leeward and his P-51 Galloping Ghost crashed near the spectator area yesterday killing himself and at least 2 others and injuring around 50 people. I've never seen the plane but Jimmy is from Ocala, FL about an hour away. He was a movie stunt pilot (Amelia, Clouddancer) and has been racing Reno since 1975. He was 74 years old and according to all accounts a great person and superb pilot.

Hopefully there isn't cries for Reno to end or old men to stop flying. There is pictures of the trim tab from the elevator being torn loose so it will be interesting to find out what the NTSB comes up with as far as the cause of this accident.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1378/p51gallopingghostjimmyl.jpg)
Title: Re: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: shawn a on September 18, 2011, 01:46:54 AM
Sad day indeed.
I was packing to drive to Reno for the Sunday finals when I got e-mails and a phone call.
Based on the few photos and videos that I've seen, the elevator trim tab was definitely missing and another part of it was loose. This photo, allegedly taken at the last moment, shows the tailwheel down, and oddly enough, no pilot is visible.
I have heard that a Mayday was called, followed by the pull-up, and then the barrel roll into the ground. It may be possible that the pull-up caused G-loc.
My thoughts are saddened by the terrible loss of 9 people so far, and hope no more fatalities occur as a result of this accident.
Shawn A.
Title: Re: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: Webmaster on September 18, 2011, 04:08:00 AM
Sad is all I have to say about this for now.

Hopefully there isn't cries for Reno to end or old men to stop flying.

Indeed.
Title: Re: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: HaveBlue on September 18, 2011, 09:05:57 AM
shawn I agree, my thoughts are G-LOC might be part of the equation here. On a seperate note when I first saw pictures on A.net of the 'pilotless airplane' certain scenarios went thru my head then I remembered YOU HAVE TO BE STRAPPED IN! So how could he slither down thru G's? Even in my lowly Cessna you by law have to be seatbelted in, and I would only imagine these racers are more likely 5 point harnessed in right?
Title: Re: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: Ramon on September 18, 2011, 11:52:46 AM
This has to be the worst aviation/airshow season in years, with a
massive amount of (fatal) incidents/accidents in Europe and the US.

Sunday 17 September had another fatality with the crash of one T-28
Trojan, belonging to the Trojan Horseman team, during the "Thunder
over the Blue Ridge" airshow, killing the pilot.

Hopefully this is the last incident/accident in a already far to long list.
Thoughts and prayers to all...

Regards, Ramon
Title: Re: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: HaveBlue on September 18, 2011, 07:39:10 PM
Sunday 17 September had another fatality with the crash of one T-28

Just to clarify but that happened on Saturday the 17th, not Sunday. :)
Title: Re: P-51 Crashes at Reno yesterday, kills pilot and spectators
Post by: shawn a on September 18, 2011, 08:19:49 PM
Yeah, the "pilotless" photo must be an glare thing or angle of the sun, or something like that. I know from experience that a 5-point-harness allows little movement, even if unconscious.