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Title: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 07, 2009, 02:03:28 AM
Stool pigeons

Budget Irish airline Ryanair wants to make passengers stand up during its flights so it can cram more people on board.

Instead of regular seats, passengers will be allocated stools where they can perch with seatbelts around their waists, the UK's Daily Mail newspaper reports.

Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary is holding discussions with US plane manufacturer Boeing about designing a plane with standing room.

The move is expected to save the air carrier 20 per cent in costs and allow it to fit 30 per cent more passengers on its planes.

It is just the latest in a series of extreme cost cutting measures planned by Ryanair, which last month announced passengers will soon have to carry their own luggage up to the aeroplane.

The company is also reconsidering a controversial plan to charge customers for using bathrooms on its planes.

Anyone want to stand next to me?

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Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: SukhoiLover on July 07, 2009, 03:06:49 PM
These people are crazy, what about safety ??? ???

Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 07, 2009, 03:08:15 PM
Remember it's Ireland Suck. I know one thing, DCA would not allow that in Australia.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: SukhoiLover on July 07, 2009, 03:19:10 PM
Remember it's Ireland Suck. I know one thing, DCA would not allow that in Australia.

FAA shouldn´t allow it, its a crazy idea.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 07, 2009, 03:50:12 PM
I heard David Letterman talking about it last night and thought he was joking! Then again, if anybody thinks they'd have a better chance of surviving a plane crash sitting down as opposed to standing, you need to think again. I would think the added weight would be more of an issue.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 07, 2009, 03:53:35 PM
I don't know about that Aardvark. Having a seat wrapped around you seems a lot more protective than standing.
Look at the Martin Baker ejection seat for instance and how protective that became from just climbing over the side.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 07, 2009, 04:25:49 PM
I'm talking about an airliner crashing with hundreds of people on board. You'll be deader than dead regardless of if you were sitting, standing, lying down, whatever. No ejection seats on commercial aircraft, if that things going down, there's nothing your gonna do about it.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: SukhoiLover on July 07, 2009, 05:13:49 PM
I'm talking about an airliner crashing with hundreds of people on board. You'll be deader than dead regardless of if you were sitting, standing, lying down, whatever. No ejection seats on commercial aircraft, if that things going down, there's nothing your gonna do about it.

Yes but if you can increase your chances of survival than why not doing it?

I mean, i really don´t think this idea will work.

Theres also another thing, airplanes have operational weight limits, you can´t just fill the plane up with people, you must worry about the weigh and the weight issues that might come from this measure.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 07, 2009, 05:21:42 PM
I'm talking about an airliner crashing with hundreds of people on board. You'll be deader than dead regardless of if you were sitting, standing, lying down, whatever. No ejection seats on commercial aircraft, if that things going down, there's nothing your gonna do about it.

Yes but if you can increase your chances of survival than why not doing it?

I mean, i really don´t think this idea will work.

Theres also another thing, airplanes have operational weight limits, you can´t just fill the plane up with people, you must worry about the weigh and the weight issues that might come from this measure.

Yeah, that was my concern as well, the extra weight.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Webmaster on July 07, 2009, 05:33:41 PM
Ryan Air will then just solve that weight problem by no longer allowing any luggage, just your toothbrush, ah yeah and their fat-tax of course will help of course.

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Last month, Mr O'Leary suggested he could start charging for sick bags. That thought came in the wake of a suggestion that the firm could start charging up to a Euro a time for visits to the toilet.
 


If he keeps this up, then the normal aviation companies will start to look good again. Decent leg room and an airport not 100 miles away from where I need to be is enough for me to seek other airlines than RyanAir... and I am happy to pay more for it, as the additional fees and fares resulting from a RyanAir flight often add up to about as much.

Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 07, 2009, 07:29:56 PM
I agree. The airlines in the 'states' are still pretty resonable when you consider we can bring luggage, sit down comfortably and not have to pay to visit the toilet. I'm willing to pay a little extra.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 08, 2009, 12:35:40 AM
Trouble is, they are all either bankrupt or going into bankruptcy. I guess RyanAir are grabbing at desperate measures.

Don't forget in discussion about weight saving what hundreds of seats themselves weigh. A modern airline seat probably weighs as much as a small person.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Webmaster on July 08, 2009, 02:12:39 AM
True, you have a point there. So maybe they'll settle on a lighter, more compact, but just as safe seat... which will be pretty uncomfortable, so he still gets his way.

The model works, but for how long.

Ryanair Passenger Growth in Millions
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 08, 2009, 12:34:29 PM
I am going to bring up a pertinent point here.
If British DCA allows standing in civil airliners into their airspace, it will be the final proof that Britain is in decline generally. DCA Australia is patterned on DCA Britain and the bloody cows will come home before that happens here.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Viggen on July 08, 2009, 02:55:46 PM
Their idea about vertical seating would give you as a passenger a free ride. If you choose the standing option, you would not have to pay for your ticket. Now thats low budget, the Ryanair way.  :P



Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: SukhoiLover on July 08, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
Oh my God, the world is crazy... :o :o
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 09, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
In further news here in Australia on this, it now appears that RyanAir 'has' said that anyone standing won't have to pay but if you still want a seat you will.
I know socialism is rampant in Europe and in fact many countries are now further to the left than the Soviet Union, but can someone tell me why a private company wants people to fly for free?
What are they to get out of it?
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Viggen on July 09, 2009, 12:21:53 AM

What are they to get out of it?

Lots of aussie passengers perhaps?  ;) Just joking.

I have no idea what this would lead to, because the whole idea of vertical seats (for free) sounds so stupid, there is nothing to gain.  :)
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 09, 2009, 05:14:45 AM
Hey who's that handsome dude in the picture Viggen?
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 09, 2009, 07:42:58 AM
He looks a lot older than I thought he'd be. Fifty something I guess.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Viggen on July 09, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
LOL! No, im "only" 37 years old.  ;D

I felt the need to change my avatar since i had that JA37 Viggen from the start.

Anyway, here in Sweden there was a vote on the Ryanairs idea by a newspaper. More then half voted that they liked the vertical seating idea and would preffer it if it gave them the chance to fly for free.

They have to be some real cheap ass incompetent monkeys who voted that its sounds like a good idea.  :o
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 09, 2009, 03:55:17 PM
LOL! No, im "only" 37 years old

I would've guessed mid 30s, I think AVIATOR is busting your balls. How can I put a picture of myself on my profile?
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Viggen on July 09, 2009, 04:05:29 PM
LOL! No, im "only" 37 years old

I would've guessed mid 30s, I think AVIATOR is busting your balls. How can I put a picture of myself on my profile?

I know and i dont mind.  ;D

To add your own picture, click on Profile , then choose Forum Profile Information . You find it on the left side. Scroll down and upload your own avatar.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: F-111 C/C on July 09, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
OK. I guess I thought I could upload it from my own browser but it looks like it needs to be a URL like 'snapfish' or 'shutterfly', etc.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: Viggen on July 09, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
OK. I guess I thought I could upload it from my own browser but it looks like it needs to be a URL like 'snapfish' or 'shutterfly', etc.

I uploaded mine from my HDD.
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: shawn a on July 09, 2009, 11:07:01 PM
Guys, Guys, you all obviously did not read the whole article.
Ryanair will be charging EXTRA for those of us wishing to wingwalk.
They'll be making a lot of money off of people like me.









an AUSSIE put up the original post.....does that not tell you anything?
Title: Re: Standing room only flying Ryanair
Post by: AVIATOR on July 10, 2009, 01:38:13 AM
OK. I guess I thought I could upload it from my own browser but it looks like it needs to be a URL like 'snapfish' or 'shutterfly', etc.

No URL stuff necessary Aardvark, just select a pic from your file that you have in say, in 'my documents'.