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Military Aviation => Defence in General => Topic started by: Gripen on January 24, 2008, 07:52:12 AM

Title: French/British Carrier
Post by: Gripen on January 24, 2008, 07:52:12 AM
HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales expected to enter service in 2014 & 2016.
Expected to be the largest aircraft carriers out side of the US, displacing about 75,000 tonnes.

UK will get 2, France will get 1.

Displacement: 65,000 tonnes (75,000 full load)
Capacity: 1,450
Length: 284 metres (931 ft)
Beam: 39 metres (waterline) c.73 metres overall
Draught: 11 metres
Draft: 9 metres
Speed: 28 knots
Range: 10,000 nautical miles (18,520 km)
Complement: 600
Aircraft carried: 40 (50 full load) aircraft, including: STOVL F-35B Lightning II

Total UK cost believed to be about £3.9billion (pound sterling if the icon doesnt show up)

French Carrier/s

Displacement: est. 70,000-75,000 tons full load
Length: 283 m overall
Beam: 73 m overall
Draft: 11.5 m
Propulsion: Two RR MT-30 Gas turbine
4 diesel-electric
two shafts
Speed: 25 knots (46 km/h)
Range: 10,000 nautical miles at 15 knots
Complement: Ship's Company: 1,000
Air Wing: 650
Sensors and processing systems: Héracles air search and target acquisition radar
Armament: two 8 cell SYLVER launchers carrying the MBDA Aster 15 surface to air missile.
Giat 20F2 20 mm cannons.
Aircraft carried: 48 aircraft, including, 32 Rafale, E-2C Hawkeyes, NH-90 helicopters


The ship will have two islands: one devoted to ship navigation, and the other to air operations. This allows optimal placement of bridges for both tasks: navigation calls for a bridge placed forward (as on the Charles De Gaulle), while air operations are made easier with a bridge placed abaft (as seen on the US Nimitz class). Confirm: Both or just French

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth_class_aircraft_carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_French_aircraft_carrier



http://navy-matters.beedall.com/cvfmain.htm
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.2226


Title: Re: French/British Carrier
Post by: Webmaster on January 27, 2008, 04:49:21 PM
Max 40-50 fighters per carrier, more than most countries operate, but only about half of the aircraft on the Nimitz class carriers. Still pretty good for the UK and France. Big projects though, I wouldn't be surprised if they will add up 5 years delay until going operational...  ;)
Title: Re: French/British Carrier
Post by: alyster on January 27, 2008, 04:59:39 PM
I'm suprised. Didn't the UK cancel its new carrier project some time ago due to high costs?
Title: Re: French/British Carrier
Post by: Gripen on January 28, 2008, 03:38:16 AM
France is sharing the costs this time, so maybe they restarted it again because their not paying for the whole thing themselves?
Title: Re: French/British Carrier
Post by: Webmaster on January 29, 2008, 01:15:43 AM
I'm suprised. Didn't the UK cancel its new carrier project some time ago due to high costs?

Define some time ago?

Quote from: Wikipedia
The contract for these vessels was announced on 25 July 2007 by the Secretary of State for Defence Des Browne, ending several years of delay over cost issues and British naval shipbuilding restructuring.

I haven't seen any big changes in plans since then?