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RNLAF F-16 Model
« on: April 24, 2005, 11:28:12 PM »
I have a Dutch F-16 to model from 312 squadron. I was wondering if you could tell me what kind of roles and weapons are being employed?

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Re: F-16s at Manas airport - Enduring Freedom
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2005, 12:29:35 AM »
Is it a F-16A or mid-life update, F-16AM?
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Re: F-16s at Manas airport - Enduring Freedom
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2005, 04:30:23 AM »
It's an F-16A side number J-213. I'm thinking about trying a conversion to the AM version.

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Re: RNLAF F-16 Model
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2006, 09:24:39 PM »
Sorry that I didn't answer you sooner. I have split and moved your message, because it was not really related to the discussion there.

F-16A:
Go with AIM-7 and AIM-9 for the A-A mission. For A-G 4x AIM-9s with CBU-87s or Mk.82s are the most common fits. AGM-65 also an option.

F-16AM:
Afghanistan: 2x AIM-120, and 2x GBU-12, 2x wing fuel tanks, LANTIRN Sharpshooter pod.
Kosovo: 2x AIM-120 and 2x AIM-9 or 4x AIM-9 and 2x Mk.82/CBU-87, 2x wing fuel tanks. 
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Re: RNLAF F-16 Model
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2006, 11:09:46 PM »
I'm not very knowledgeable about A-A missiles, but I can safely say that it's time to do away with the Aim-9 Sparrow, please correct me if I'm wrong - the AIM-9 is the Sparrow, right?  I read that the drawback to the Aim-9 is that the fighter has to point its radar at the target to keep the missile on track and if not, the missile would lose the target and fly off whereever. 

I watched a program where a US fighter pilot during the Vietnam War, had to fire the Aim-9s in pair, just because the first one might, and in most cases, miss.

Webmaster, I'm not very familiar with the AMRAAM, but isn't it a fire-and-forget missile, once the pilot has acquired the target?  I would rather go with this missile on the
F-16, and for that matter, any Western fighter, and free the pilot to do other things, like survive a dogfight during combat. 

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Re: RNLAF F-16 Model
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2006, 09:37:02 AM »
AIM-7 Sparrow, and you are right about PASV mode of the Sparrow, but don't forget that latter variants were much improved, and a lot of kills of Desert Storm were scored with the Sparrow, I think AIM-7M was the most advanced one. It is not only the problem of missing the target, but also exposing your position while tracking the target. AIM-120 AMRAAM is definately much better, like you said, fire-and-forget, the missile is actively looking for the target. But the thing is the RNLAF didn't had AMRAAMs in their inventory before 1999, the first real AMRAAMs were carried only by the F-16AM (mid-life update). Ok, they ordered some in 1995, but it wasn't with the MLU (1997) that they became a standard missile. So that's why I said, AIM-7 for the basic A-model.

But I start to doubt whether the Netherlands actually carried the AIM-7 in its inventory, maybe that's why the US needed to base F-15s here in the Netherlands, because we even didn't have our own long range missile for on the F-16??

The AIM-9 Sidewinder are still carried,  it's the L-model, but I think M-model now, I think earlier version were phased out with the F-104/NF-5. AIM-9X can enter the inventory at any moment now with phase 3 of the MLU completed and phase 4 being developed (with HMS).

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Re: RNLAF F-16 Model
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2006, 02:33:23 PM »
F-15's based in the Netherlands? I had no idea...

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Re: RNLAF F-16 Model
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 08:25:56 PM »
Yep, at Soesterberg AB. F-86s, F-100s, F-102s, F-4s and F-15s.

http://www.slobberinwolfhounds.com/

As you can see, the F-15s carried the CR tailcode and an orange (royal color) band with the Dutch crown in it.
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Re: RNLAF F-16 Model
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2006, 10:25:35 PM »
Excellent !!!

 



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