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Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« on: April 26, 2005, 09:05:59 AM »
 :(I think it is very good step from Pakistan Government  to buy F-16 for Enhance here Air Force

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Pakistan has sought prices for buying as many as 75 new F-16 C/D Falcon fighter aircraft since the Bush administration announced it would resume sales, the head of the Pentagon agency handling the matter said on Wednesday.

Pakistan also has asked about buying 11 used F-16s, said Air Force Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kohler, head of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which runs U.S. government-to-government arms sales.

Many experts had expected Pakistan to seek only about two dozen F-16s, said Richard Aboulafia of Teal Group, a Virginia-based aerospace consultancy.

The numbers cited by Kohler show it wants to make the F-16 a mainstay of its combat aircraft fleet, he said, adding this was "very ambitious in terms of regional strategy and very costly."

The single-engine, multi-role F-16 is built by Maryland-based Lockheed Martin Corp. . The new purchases would flesh out a fleet of about 32 F-16s acquired before Congress cut off sales in 1990 over Pakistan's nuclear program.

Kohler, in an interview with Reuters, said Pakistan had requested F-16 Block 50/52 aircraft, the most modern flown by the United States and the current production standard, similar to exports to Poland, Greece, Chile, Oman and Israel.

Only the United Arab Emirates flies a more advanced variant, Block 60, with improved radar, defenses and range.

Asked about any Pakistani interest in the Block 60 model, Kohler said: "They did not ask for it and I don't think they could afford it." Kohler held arms-sale talks with defense ministry officials in Pakistan and India last month.

"I think when we go back and talk to them about the cost of the new systems my guess is that they will downsize slightly the (request for) new and they may increase slightly the used," he said.

The Bush Administration announced on Mar. 25 that it would resume sales of F-16s to Pakistan after a 16-year break. The about-face was widely seen as a reward for Pakistan's support of the U.S.-led global war on terrorism.

At the same time, the administration said it would let Boeing Co. and Lockheed compete for a potential $9 billion market in India for as many as 126 combat aircraft.

Lockheed is pitching India the same F-16 Block 50/52 and Boeing is offering its dual-engine F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, the most modern combat U.S. aircraft currently in full-rate production.

The F-16 C/D Block 50/52 sells for $40 million to $45 million each, depending on options. Boeing's Super Hornet is expected to cost $50 million to $55 million, based on the U.S. Navy's next production batch, Kohler said.
He said India was seeking to produce domestically the majority of the aircraft it eventually buys. It also apparently had invited bids from Sweden, France and Russia, Kohler said.

For Pakistan, U.S. government officials were still weighing the weapons systems, targeting pods, radars and electronic warfare equipment that would be offered as part of a package.

A deal could perhaps be notified to Congress toward the end of the summer, the first step in a process that could lead to deliveries three years after an agreement is signed, he said.
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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2005, 01:34:43 PM »
I think they should get E,F models if they want F-16s.

Is there any news regarding possible offers J-10/F-10 for PAF by China?
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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 02:02:46 AM »
acc. to me i dont think the pak govt shud go for the f-16 base versions which is what the bush administration wud be giving...they cud try their luck at obtaining the advance f-16 block60 or the f-18 E/F models

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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2005, 02:40:52 PM »
Of course, the Pakistani would prefer the F-16E/F Block 60, but I think that the US doesn't want to risk its relations to India, so they only offer the C/D Block 50. The Indians wouldn't be very pleased to see an advanced aircraft like the E/F in Pakistani hands. They'd like it most, if the US wouldn't sell any F-16 to Pakistan.
To the J-10. The Pakistanis are more interested in obtaining the JF-17. I think there are no negotiations about the J-10.


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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2005, 12:44:19 PM »
Don’t forget the situation the US is in. They almost have to give the Paki’s a good deal on any aircraft (in my opinion the block 50’s) because of the help they are giving them in the Afghanistan/terrorists campaign. Nothing for nothing, the Paki’s must be thinking.

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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2005, 03:04:57 PM »
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Pakistan to order at least 55 Block 52 F-16s
 

Thursday, May 12, 2005 - Pakistan has increased its requirement on the number of F-16s to at least 55 and plans to decide on a configuration within the next few weeks. Industry sources say government-to-government meetings held in Pakistan last month resulted in a letter of request for 55 F-16s, plus 20 options.


This is in line with the 71 additional F-16A/Bs Pakistan ordered before an arms embargo was imposed by the USA in 1990, but well above the 24-36 Lockheed was initially expecting.

Another meeting is planned for later this month in the USA with the addition of representatives from Lockheed. This meeting should result in a decision on a configuration, most likely Block 50/52 aircraft, and a letter of agreement.

The US government will then be able to notify Congress of the proposed deal, giving it 60 days to consider it. A final contract could be signed as early as September for delivery from late 2008.

Islamabad 's F-16s are to be funded partly by a five-year military aid package the USA has guaranteed Pakistan in exchange for its role in the "war on terrorism". Pakistan will have to find additional funds from its defence budget, but sources say it is uncertain whether it will receive enough for all 55 aircraft.
 
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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2005, 01:47:38 AM »
Nobody, your last post has been deleted. This is not a place for political accusations against any country, at least not in the offending, rude and unfounded way you posted it. 
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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2005, 04:52:52 PM »
I think they should get E,F models if they want F-16s.

Is there any news regarding possible offers J-10/F-10 for PAF by China?

Dear Admin,
                          you say right but F-16 "E" & "F" are soo expensive. PAF wants to buy F-16 C& D.

As u say about J-10, this is the future aircraft of PAF after Jf-17 Thunder.
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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2005, 08:30:06 AM »
GOOD FOR PAKISTAN - COZ THEY GET THEM FREE INSPITE OF SUPPORTING  THE AL-QUEDA & THE TALIBAN & OSAMA BIN LADEN.

BAD FOR THE U.S. - BECAUSE THEIR TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR WARPLANES WHICH MAY BE USED BY PAKISTANI TERRORISTS AGAINST THE U.S. SOME DAY. 

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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2005, 04:20:01 PM »
Latest news concerning this "HOT" topic........ :-\

In Dutch: Pakistan koopt nog geen F-16's
In verband met de aardbeving van vorige maand stelt Pakistan de aanschaf van F-16's even uit. President Musharraf wil het geld gebruiken voor de wederopbouw en de noodhulp voor de slachtoffers van de aardbeving. Pakistan zou tachtig F-16's kopen van de Verenigde Staten die ongeveer 2,5 miljard euro moesten kosten. Het land besteedt het op dit moment liever aan de zorg voor de mensen, omdat veel mensen de winter anders niet doorkomen. Musharraf denkt verder dat Pakistan minder geld heeft gekregen van de rijkere landen, omdat tijdens de aardbeving in Pakistan weinig Westerse toeristen waren.

Translated: Pakistan is not going to buy any F-16's, for now.
This due the eartquake that was also in Pakistan, and all the money is needed for the local people over there.
I think it is finally a very smart and good move/decision from a country to first take care of their people


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Re: Is F-16 Fighting Falcon version of C,D is Good for Pakistan
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2005, 04:31:21 PM »
Musharraf Postpones F-16 Purchase to Provide More Quake Relief
Fri, 4 Nov 2005, 12:12

Pakistan says it will postpone the purchase of F-16 fighter jets from the United States in order to provide more relief to victims of the devastating October eighth earthquake.

President Pervez Musharraf made the announcement during a tour of quake-hit areas Friday. He said the government wants to provide maximum relief and reconstruction efforts.

General Musharraf had earlier said his country did not plan to cut into its defense budget to increase funds for relief efforts.

On Thursday, Jordan's Queen Rania, speaking on behalf of the United Nations children's fund, called for help to immunize Pakistani children against disease.

Quake survivors marked a normally joyous Muslim festival of Eid-al-Fitr today with somber prayers amid ruins and debris, and visits to the graves of their relatives who died in the catastrophe.

Pakistan this week raised its death toll from the quake to more than 73,000.

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