MILAVIA Forum

Military Aviation => Military Aircraft => Topic started by: Viggen on February 12, 2007, 11:48:10 AM

Title: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Viggen on February 12, 2007, 11:48:10 AM
The EADS Mako looks promising with its weapon-system, top speed of mach 1.3 and stealth-technology. I think it migh give Gripen a good run for the money. (But secretly i hope it will be just to expensive to build this aircraft).  8)

Read about the Mako here:
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mako/
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Gripen on February 13, 2007, 06:53:56 AM
no.. Gripen is a proper fighter.. the Mako is a trainer/light attacker.
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Viggen on February 13, 2007, 09:36:46 AM
There is a singelseater fighter version also. But you are right, the main purpuose is trainer/light attack :-\
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Gripen on February 13, 2007, 10:29:15 AM
pfft, i only read the first like 5 lines >:)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Viggen on February 13, 2007, 05:21:06 PM
No worries, i just wanted to hear some oppinions. And like you, i preffer the Gripen.  :)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Cobra2 on February 13, 2007, 06:22:48 PM
Yeah Gripen all the way  8)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Globetrotter on February 13, 2007, 09:25:52 PM
It is not the same thing. MAKO could even be a great light attack/trainer aircraft, but it hasn't got the Gripen's capabilities to fight, it just hasnothing to do...
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Foxhound21 on February 18, 2007, 07:53:37 AM
man ill go gripen all the way fist of all looks
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Viggen on February 18, 2007, 11:41:18 AM
I was not just thinking of air to air combat, but the overall picture. Like countries in south america would probably find this as an intresting substitute for the F5 and perhaps cheaper then Gripen.  :)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Cobra2 on February 18, 2007, 09:41:41 PM
True.
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: alyster on February 18, 2007, 10:30:55 PM
Wouldn't it be more effective to replace the F-5s by some Chinese or Russian made aircrafts? I mean you can get them cheaper, their parts are cheaper and for the same money you can proably afford a better plane then a second class European fighter.
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Globetrotter on February 18, 2007, 10:47:07 PM
Wouldn't it be more effective to replace the F-5s by some Chinese or Russian made aircrafts? I mean you can get them cheaper, their parts are cheaper and for the same money you can proably afford a better plane then a second class European fighter.


That is exactly what i think! :D (Russian aircrafts, don't know about chineese yet ;D)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Viggen on February 19, 2007, 01:40:25 PM
Well, this is state of the art with stealth technology. Its just that the trend seems to be developing smaller and agile aircraft these days. Russian aircraft are not known for their small size and big twin-engined fighters cost alot of money to service, and the fuel-costs are pretty high.

Now im not trying to defend the Mako, i preffer to see the Gripen spread to all airforces around the world.  ;D
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Globetrotter on February 19, 2007, 01:49:23 PM
I have to confess I prefer the MiG-29 for my FAA. That is not as big as you might think ;D (And I believe better than Gripen, sorry)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Foxhound21 on February 19, 2007, 04:52:18 PM
I have to confess I prefer the MiG-29 for my FAA. That is not as big as you might think ;D (And I believe better than Gripen, sorry)
COME ON Globe the Gripen is way better and more modern aircraft ur plane would have a hard time w/ the Gripen
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Cobra2 on February 20, 2007, 01:29:54 AM
Haha yeah definitly  8)
And Viggen, I wouldnt mind having a Gripen for my countries airforce :)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Viggen on February 20, 2007, 12:55:22 PM
The Gripen actually grows on you. The more you look at it and read about it, the more you start liking it. Its like a hybrid of three aircraft:  JA37 Viggen, F16A and the F5E.  Sure the Viggen looks much better and sounds great, but Gripen has the advantage in air to air-combat over it.  :)

So of course Gripen will also be a better fighter then the Mako, since Makos main purpouse is to be a training aircraft. But still the Mako can steal customers around the world. It always comes down to politics and economics in the end.  :)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Webmaster on February 24, 2007, 06:16:14 PM
I think the MAKO should be more worried of the Czech, Russians and Chinese (L-159, Yak-130, MiG-AT, K-8, FC-1) than the Gripen of competing with the MiG-29.

I don't see MAKO competing Gripen, maybe could have for the UK test pilot school, but Gripen already won that.
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Gripen on February 25, 2007, 01:57:16 AM
i think its more of a hybrid between a F-16 and a Mirage :)
Title: Re: Can this be Gripens new opposition
Post by: Raptor on February 28, 2007, 07:44:03 AM
Mmmmmm. Yeah, i agree that the Gripen is better. Any usage of the Mirage is useless.