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Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« on: July 19, 2009, 01:25:05 AM »
 July 14, 2009
The cost of winning a future war

    The F-22 will be America’s top fighter/bomber for the next four decades, able to take down present and future air threats.

Key defence senators support the F-22 program and are fighting President Obama’s efforts to remove $1.75 billion for new planes from the defense authorization bill pending in the Senate.

In the debate over funding more F-22s, the Obama administration has said repeatedly that the plane is unnecessary for fighting the types of wars America is presently waging in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But that fails to take into account the all-too-real threat posed by inexpensive integrated air-defense systems that not only exist but that are mushrooming.

Think about North Korea, or about Iran, nations run by hostile regimes hellbent on obtaining nuclear weapons and buying the next generation of Russian-made surface-to-air missiles.

For planes without the F-22’s stealth technology and supersonic speeds, it will be extremely difficult to penetrate such countries’ airspaces.

The Raptor is the only Western aircraft that can stalk such targets day and night while also piercing enemy airspace.

Here’s another fact: No other aircraft has this capability.

This isn’t theoretical. In exercises, other aircraft have proven no match for the Raptor.

In a recent Red Flag exercise in Alaska, the F-22 slew 144 enemy planes with the loss of only one Raptor.

With the F-22’s advanced avionics, it can engage the enemy long before the enemy knows it’s there.

The Raptor’s detractors also persist in using false economics: that the F-22’s hourly flight costs are far more expensive than the F-15 it is replacing.

The brand-new F-22 costs $19,750 per hour to fly, instead of $17,465 for the F-15, a plane that is nearly 40 years old, and that has none of the F-22’s advanced stealth and speed capabilities.

Yes, the F-22 requires a large number of maintenance hours per flight hour.

But most of those are spent on the Raptor’s “skin” that gives it the ability to elude radar. Maintaining that stealth requires a great deal of exactitude and painstaking attention. And the plane requires far less work to maintain than did its predecessors, the F-117 and the B-2.

It is a better buy for the taxpayer to maintain the F-22 than to buy replacement models of nonstealth aircraft that have proven vulnerable precisely because they could not infiltrate enemy airspace.

And it is unquestionably better not to expose our pilots and troops to such dangers if we have the technology to protect them as they perform their jobs.

If the Raptor is such a fiasco, as its critics would have you believe, then Americans should wonder why so many of our allies, including Israel, Japan and Australia, continue to express interest in buying it.

Perhaps these nations can see through the newspaper rhetoric to understand that the F-22 is an airborne deterrent in America’s arsenal, capable of protecting our fighting men and women now and in the future.

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Re: Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2009, 03:54:13 PM »
Ah, i can see the debate of "how good the raptor is coming".....


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Re: Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 12:18:47 AM »
I wonder what the cost was to run the F117 and B2 per hour?

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Re: Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 08:45:43 AM »
You know, that's cheaper than I spent for an hour in a MIG-31.
I'll spring for it, if our American lawyers will figure out how to write the liability releases so they're not responsible for anything "unforseen".
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Re: Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 04:14:31 AM »
You know, that's cheaper than I spent for an hour in a MIG-31.
I'll spring for it, if our American lawyers will figure out how to write the liability releases so they're not responsible for anything "unforseen".
TFWI!! (Totally -expletive deleted- Worth It)!!!!!

Well you paid everything to make that hour possible, edge of space, supersonic was it? Plus all the fees then. The 19750 figure is an average...based on some accounting numbers. But yeah MiG-31 isn't the cheapest one to fly either.

I wonder what the cost was to run the F117 and B2 per hour?

I did check for the B-2 a long time back, and it actually wasn't as high as you'd think. It was 10k or 12k, but figures were 10 years old I think, so you'd have to correct it. But then it's still cheaper. Probably due to fuel and maintaining it may be costly, but it flies very long sorties, so per hour it might actually be less than the fighters. Also fuel... no afterburner, highly efficient flying wing, long dull sorties (less climbing/manouvering).


I calculate back on the basis on some numbers in the paper last week for the F-35/JSF, and came to a per hour rate of about 15k. Makes sense compared to the 17.5 and 20 for the mentioned two-engined jets, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this estimate creeps up to 20 as well by the time it has some operational years beyond it.
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Re: Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 04:16:16 AM »
holy cow, I had no idea!

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Re: Each F-22 costs $19750 an hour to fly.
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 12:38:31 AM »
Still sounds like a deal to me, when the latest estimate of the per hour cost of the F-35 is said to be $16,425 (and that's in 2002 dollars!! This according to the May 16th issue of AW&ST)

 



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