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Military Aviation => Military Aircraft => Topic started by: Ramon on October 11, 2005, 02:45:40 PM
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Hello guys,
Thought I would share this video with you guys.
About the Fare-well of the in my humble opinion, best Navy build fighter ever.
I'm talking offcourse about the beautifull F-14 Tomcat......... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Link: http://airshowstuff.com/Tomcat_Farewell.wmv
You will be missed in many military aviation hearts.............................................. :-\ :'(
Regards, Ramon.
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Aw, that's sweet.
Does any1 know what song it is with the video? :P
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Aw, that's sweet.
Does any1 know waht song it is with the video? :P
Hi Alyster,
The music that you hear is from "Greenday", don't now what the song is??
Buth I find the movie more important.......... :P ::)
Regards, Ramon.
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Nice video but It´s sad to see another legend retire. :(
Still it have one more year to fly before it goes away forever. Those aircraftcarriers will look pretty strange without them.
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F-14 Tomcat is my favourite military aircraft ever in my life..its shape so fine.. After i watched the movie "Top Gun" starring by Tom Cruise, I m already addicted to it! So long...Tomcat.. :'(
The song title is "time of ur life", performed by Greenday..Thks Scorpion! for the clip.. ;D
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In my opinion, F-14 Tomcat is one of the last few aircraft with "spirit". I think I will never get used to see "Jolly Rogers" on the tail of another navy jet...
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I agree with u orko_8! By the way, r u the Tomcat's fan? If yes, u can visit this website www.tomcat-sunset.org
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Yes lalanuni, I'm a huge fan of Tomcat! Even my mug's a Tomcat patch :) I surfed the site and it's pretty cool, thanks a lot :)
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Last week I hapened to see a film about Iran. The filmmakers were pretty sure that U.S. will attack Iran due to it's huge suport for terrorism and ademps to get WMD. It was like no mather what Tehran will do or say, U.S. will attack. (Like Iraq, Iran then Syria and N.Korea and maybe the world is a better place). But many have said that the attack of Iraq was too fast, so now they are planing the new war with lots of time and big cear. Also the film said that by now Pentagon takes air attacks as main means of attacking.
Anyway the point where I'm trying to get is that it's good news only for Tomcat fans, coz then u can see your lovely plane in action on front page of the Times or in CNN (no mather that they will be used against the U.S. ;D)
BTW when talking about Irans F-14s, then there are some rumors, that Iran has replaced the Tomcats engine for some Soviet made engines. Which ones? why? Were they out of parts for the U.S made engines or did they want more power?
[ I came, I saw, Iran! - one joke I remebered about Iranis AF ]
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Iran has been embargoed by the US for some time. Also the Tomcat's engines are not the most reliable/easy to maintain. I think they were thinking/trying to put the RD-33s on it (the engines of the MiG-29s in service with Iran). I am not 100% sure about this, but the other alternative Russian engine to put on it would be the AL-31, but Iran doesnt fly Flankers. So increase in power...probably not. Keeping the powerful F-14 interception system (radar+Phoenix) in the air is probably the priority, either by getting the Tomcat in the air with other parts/engines, or by transferring the systems and phoenix to other aircraft. Both have been attempted I think, but I don't know to what extend, nor the current status. Last thing I read was an estimated 15 to 20 F-14s remaining in operational service.
I am not to keen on these pre-emptive style invasions... and an occupied Iran would only lead to more terrorists or well enemies of the US....but that's another subject, and quite a difficult one I guess...
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u r welcome! orko_8...its my pleasure to share with all the tomcat's fans.. ;D Btw, for what i know is US has already revised the support to Iran's tomcat due to some certain reasons(unspecified)..But maybe i m wrong too. :P
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Hello to all!
First post here and I would like to thank the webmaster for the excellent job he does by maintaining this site.
However, it's a sad thing to see relatively few people being members to it.
To the subject of the IRIAF Tomcats now, according to some authorities on the subject (such as Tom Cooper), no engine substitution has taken place and Ali's cats soldier on with the untrusty TF 30s. Also the approximate inventory stands at 54 airframes with about 29 available for flight operations. It has been indicated that this number has recently increased (due to the hightened tensions with the West and Israel) and perhaps has reached the 54 airframes available. A major change is almost certain to have occured in the field of the F-14A's avionics (range increased, solid state electronics, already since the mid-80s) and also in the weapons it can employ (R-73s).
If it ever comes to combat, rest assure that the "cat" will once again show its sharp claws!
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First post here and I would like to thank the webmaster for the excellent job he does by maintaining this site.
However, it's a sad thing to see relatively few people being members to it.
Hello, and welcome to the MILAVIA forum. Thank you for your kind comments. Your observation is true, I guess I do something wrong. But also consider that the forum (launched in April 2005) hasn't been around as long as some others.
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To the subject of the IRIAF Tomcats now..
Now I'm confeused. Which is right IIAF or IRIAF? Up untill now I tought it was called IIAF(Imperial Iranian Air Force), but there's also info on the net about IRIAF. SO which of them is the right one? ???
Anyway Webmaster, you ought to think about how to market your website better. It is good, but no one really knows about it I think :-\
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IIAF stands for Imperial Iranian Air Force and is defunct since 1979 when the Shah fled the country, which in tutrn led to the establishment of the Islamic republic of Iran.
So the IIAF became the IRIAF which stands for Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force. Thereafter it is the only name being used for the Iranian air force. As a footnote, in the early stages of the Iran-Iraq war , some Iranian fighter-jets went to war still wearing the IIAF titles, such was the urgency to commit them into combat.
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So wat would happened to Iran's tomcats if being attacked by US possibly? I dont wish to see them fight each other...no! :'(
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They'll probably be bombed while in their shelters...or remain at some place until discovered by invading forces. Anyway, the USA can't have another war on their hands any time soon, so don't worry about it.
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That's wat i believe so, none of them will be bombed! peace..... :-X
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The Iranian Tomcats are sitting and collecting dust-heard a rumor that they tried to get euro and russian techs to monkey around with them and get them flight worthy a while back-but FAILED.hopefully we'll get Dub'ya out of office ,and redirect our "war on terrorism" strategy-I sincerely wish we had of confronted rogue nations like Iran and N.Korean ,as they will continue to be a thorn in the side of "polite" world gov'ts.As for the U.S. inventory- the Bone yard in AZ-sad becuase i think that airframe should have con't to be produced and made serviceable/upgraded- it was a "better" dogfighter than the F-15, can carry more payload than the Super hornet, had a longer range missile, and good range......
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The Tomcats are not just "collecting dust". ::)
Since US planes have been flying over Iraq, they have detected numerous Tomcat flights inside Iranian airspace, including one formation composed of 16 F-14s. A much more credible source (May issue of Combat Aircraft magazine) says that current intelligence shows no less than 44 airframes are operational and have gone through a complex overhaul process.
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Perhaps an incentive from the US to stop Iranian nuclear progress is to offer overhauls and spare parts from the retired USN Tomcats. Of course this would not include the AIM-54, but perhaps the offer of having their F-14 fleet fully serviced with plenty of spares would make them feel they have the edge in the Middle East's Order of Battle. Maybe having all their F-14 capability assured for a few decades will be a reasonable substitute to building nuclear weapons, at the same time keeping US contractors happy too.
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You've got to be kidding...why should the United States make deals with terrorist nations? The Iranian president said that if we decided to go in, he'd make us pay dearly... I DON'T THINK SO!!! He's full of hot air, just like the North Korean President. The United States would mop the floor with Iran's booty. He's got nothing to throw at the US.
There's only one way to deal with terrorist nations...remember Nagasaki and Hiroshima? That is the only way to SILENCE people like that. PERIOD.
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Well, I should say my good byes :'( to the F-14 Tomcat, one of the best planes ever...so beautiful. You shall stay in our hearts and minds forever. Just think of it this way, the F-14 payed its dues...now its time for them to retire. They brought the fight to the enemy with bombs signed "To Sadam, from America" and let those terrorists know who the real winner was. And we shouldnt sell ANYTHING TO IRAN. NOTHING, not even a bullet. They dont deserve it. We should just bomb them and make them understand that all there saying IS NOT TRUE. Theyll fall apart as our bomber pass overhead.
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Ok, enough politics, we are talking about the F-14 here and Iran happens to be the only operator to continue flying the Tomcat for more than a year.
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The Iranian Tomcats might be airworthy after a complex overhaul, but before the fall of the Shah of Iran, Grumman engineers removed some of the more "sensitive" equipment from the Tomcats to make them less effective, in the event Iran would use them against the US. I got this info from a documentary on the Military Channel here in the US.
Same goes for the M1A2 Abrams sold to Saudi Arabia - they didn't come equipped with the "special armor" package that American M1A2's come with. This is, which I believe, in the event there is a coup de'tat (did I spell that correctly?) in the government.
I still think the Iranian Tomcats would pose a possible threat against US fighters flying over Iraq - the purpose of the Tomcat was Fleet Air Defense and it does possess excellent dogfighting maneuvers ( and this is not because of the movie Top Gun!). At that time, the US Military gave the Shah 2 options - the F-14 and the F-15. Each aircraft had its turn in showing what its capabilities were, and apparently, the Shah was very impressed with the Tomcat over the Eagle. It's a good possibility that a duel between the Tomcat and Eagle would almost be impossible to predict - it would have to come down to pilot ability.
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Do you think it was the dogfight ability? I don't think so. The F-14 had a more powerful radar and the AIM-54 missile. Whereas the F-15s were still carrying only AIM-7/AIM-9s at that time, which could also be fitted to the Cat. Another reason might be the two-men crew, as the Iranians were used to flying the Phantom.
I think if it was only about dogfighting, they would have picked the F-15 over the F-14.
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Guys! Yesterday i saw a documentary of the Tomcat. From modern marvels (on history channel),"Tomcat sunset." For those of you who download through torrents, then this is available now on several servers. It shows the tomcats history from start to finish and i even got to see the Lybian incidents again.
I really recomend this documentary, you will get all the answers you ever need about the Tomcat and of course the Iranian ones also. But it still makes you a bit sad when you see them dismantling Tomcats, seeing empty shells of the airframe standing in the desert. :(
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You get Modern Marvels over there?
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Valiant1, I do get Modern Marvels down here (Argentina) :D Maybe no t as far as Sweeden, but... oh and it's in Spanish too :)
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You get Modern Marvels over there?
No, but i can always download the episodes i like to watch. :)
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From where do you download them?
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From where do you download them?
I download all my stuff from thepiratebay.org :)