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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 06:58:55 AM »

Actually, be honest with me, what would  relieve you the most, knowing that Australia is protected by NG Gripen or F-35´s?


Neither.. I want Flankers actually. Gripen doesnt have the range and I just plain dont like the F35

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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 11:32:10 AM »

Neither.. I want Flankers actually. Gripen doesnt have the range and I just plain dont like the F35

Er Gripe, wouldn't this mean that Australia has been invaded by China and our alliance with the US is over?

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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 06:07:30 PM »

Neither.. I want Flankers actually. Gripen doesnt have the range and I just plain dont like the F35

Er Gripe, wouldn't this mean that Australia has been invaded by China and our alliance with the US is over?

Or it could mean that Aussies got some Flankers so that their pilots could get familiar with them.

This happened in the USA not long ago, they bought some Flanker so that their pilots could practice and develop tactics to counter the Flanker, maybe they expect a real confrontation sooner or later?
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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 12:26:53 AM »
Who needs the US?

We'll unleash our secret weapon!!!


TASMANIANS!!!!!!  :D

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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 12:33:41 AM »
Don't forget Kiwis.

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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 10:13:44 AM »
Eh. We can give them Tasmanians too

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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2009, 07:53:01 PM »
Well guys, what a nice good old aviation chat!

All aviation companies perform test which in one way or another, favor their products. The real results are well hidden from the rest of us. But, when you see that Saab has redesigned the Gripen - and for sure this redisign isn't a light one - you can say that this company has recognised some drawbacks.

For me, Gripen would be a great fighter if it was to operate in an aviation world were no Flankers/Rafales/Ef2000/J10 existed.
Against the european competition Gripen lacks range, payload and maneuvrability. But it is cheaper and with the same money an airforce can field more units.
Against the Su-35 Gripen lacks in range, payload, maneuvrability, but it has superior avionics. In a few years, the Su-35 will get a good AESA and the bigger random will enable a dish with more elements.
The Mig-35, is also short ranged and lucks electronics.
J10? Comparable maneuvrability and better electronics for the Gripen.
FC1? No comparison for the Grippen.

The NG solved the range issue, it has better fuel fraction but :
the fuselage got thicker while the length remained the same. That means that the transonic drag characteristics has got worst.

More transonic drag plus bigger weight means that you need a bigger engine if it is to maintain the old Gripen's acceleration performance.
OK, the new engine is more powerful but the wing area remained unchanged. So the wing loading got worst. Thus the turning performance.......

You need good transonic performance in order to accelerate to a speed that enable the Meteor to be launched with highly kinetic energy and improve the chance to hit a Flanker.

Bottom line, i believe that the old Grippen is a better air to air and the new is a better air to ground.

I would prefer the F-35 as a bomber. For the same bomb load, the F-35 has less drag, is more stealthy and i believe it can fly faster.

I would feel better if there was 2 Gripen to protect Greece rather than 1 F-35.



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Re: Funny Gripen joke
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2009, 02:42:37 AM »
Er right Val. Suck, Gripe and I forgot we were on an aviation forum for a moment.
This joint is really jumpin' overnight. I got up to sift through all the posts.

 



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