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Military Aviation => Military Aircraft => Topic started by: Air Marshal on June 12, 2005, 02:39:23 PM

Title: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 12, 2005, 02:39:23 PM
Speed Counts the good Fighter.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Goose on June 12, 2005, 05:11:37 PM
Assuming equal pilot skill levels, it pays to have a more agile, mobile, versatile, flexible and capable aircraft. :)
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Eagle16 on June 12, 2005, 05:13:41 PM
A good pilot  and performance all the way
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: bazooka on June 12, 2005, 06:23:45 PM
I put performance, because it covers a wide range of topics. I would also say that the pilot flying the jet would also be part of the equation determining if the jet is succeseful or not.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Webmaster on June 13, 2005, 01:22:34 AM
They are all important to make a fighter successfull. There can be an aircraft with superior quality in terms of performance, but if it is unserviceable or too costly it won't be the greatest. And if you can't get the logistics to work, you'll end up with all your high performance aircraft on the ground.

Nowadays flexibility is a very important factor in making a fighter a success in both commercial and military areas. If that's in the performance option, then I would vote for that. Another important success factor would be the power to weight ratio, also in performance. I see speed and range as performance as well.

But it all depends how all things are put together.

I actually think speed is less important, as long as it isn't too slow, when talking about a multi-role fighter and not an aircraft specialised for interception. And recent fighters show this, they have lower maximum speeds than aircraft from the third generation. It is compromised for other good stuff.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Viggen on June 13, 2005, 07:51:30 AM
Development of a fighter always start with its wished preformance.  :)
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 13, 2005, 03:28:14 PM
Development of a fighter always start with its wished preformance.  :)

Ya That's 100% True.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 13, 2005, 03:31:16 PM
They are all important to make a fighter successfull. There can be an aircraft with superior quality in terms of performance, but if it is unserviceable or too costly it won't be the greatest. And if you can't get the logistics to work, you'll end up with all your high performance aircraft on the ground.

Nowadays flexibility is a very important factor in making a fighter a success in both commercial and military areas. If that's in the performance option, then I would vote for that. Another important success factor would be the power to weight ratio, also in performance. I see speed and range as performance as well.

But it all depends how all things are put together.

I actually think speed is less important, as long as it isn't too slow, when talking about a multi-role fighter and not an aircraft specialised for interception. And recent fighters show this, they have lower maximum speeds than aircraft from the third generation. It is compromised for other good stuff.

I appreciate the time you took to send your idea and suggestion about GOOD FIGHTERS.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 14, 2005, 04:32:45 PM
Assuming equal pilot skill levels, it pays to have a more agile, mobile, versatile, flexible and capable aircraft. :)
Yes Thats true because Pilots skills is directly proportional to the Aircraft. Without good pilot a best

Aircraft have no meaning.  ;)
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Webmaster on June 17, 2005, 04:22:05 PM
I appreciate the time you took to send your idea and suggestion about GOOD FIGHTERS.

Well, that's the idea of a forum.  ;)
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 18, 2005, 12:47:33 AM
Assuming equal pilot skill levels, it pays to have a more agile, mobile, versatile, flexible and capable aircraft. :)
Dear , Pilot is the basic object but here we discuss other things which makes a Good Fighter...  :)
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 18, 2005, 12:54:58 AM
Development of a fighter always start with its wished preformance.  :)
What u say? Fighter Pilot OR Fighter Aircraft   ???
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on June 18, 2005, 03:46:09 PM
Development of a fighter always start with its wished preformance.  :)
But speed also be counted.....  ;D
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Viggen on June 27, 2005, 07:30:40 AM
But speed also be counted..... ;D

I guess speed is counted in so is turnratio and so on, when ingeneers develop fighters. Think it goes under the name of preformance!! ;D
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Grifo on August 17, 2005, 09:09:38 PM
un buen caza segun mi opinion debe tener suma agilidad ser pequeño  y rapido ....mas nada
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: dreamer on August 18, 2005, 06:17:28 PM
I think all of you forgot about the most important factor af all..........WEAPONS. :P
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Webmaster on August 19, 2005, 11:28:03 PM
Ah yes, but without SYSTEMS/SENSORS your weapons are useless as well  ;) The Radar proved a to be make-or-break item for fighters many times.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: dreamer on August 22, 2005, 06:06:16 PM
very very very true...
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Air Marshal on September 04, 2005, 09:15:24 PM
Assuming equal pilot skill levels, it pays to have a more agile, mobile, versatile, flexible and capable aircraft. :)

Dear i know Pilots are the basic tool of Good Fighter but here we discuss 

Speed, Logistics, Servicing, Performance, Range and runways, Cost and Availability
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Battlemike on September 17, 2005, 01:58:01 AM
Performance- an F/A-18 in the USMC or Candian Airforce is "slow" compared to most of the world fighters (at mach 1.7) ,but the avionics ,radar absorbent  exteriors,and agility factors make it quite skilled and deadly- its one of the few world fighter aircraft (like the Tornado) that can dog fight, then bomb a target,, then dog fight its way home
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: innocentsoul on September 19, 2005, 07:13:24 AM
great Pilots are made not born,A man may posses good eyesight,sensitive hands and perfect coordination but the end product is only fastioned by steady coaching,much practice n' experience.

"LIFE FAVORS THOSE WHO DARE,WHO ARE BARELY RARE YET BELIEVE AND PLAY WITH CONVECTION AND OUTCLASS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BORN TO WIN THE HEARTS FOREVER"
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: dreamer on September 19, 2005, 06:22:35 PM
May I call you Shakespeare?    :P

but you did make a good point...
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Raptor on December 04, 2006, 11:00:23 AM
 :-\ Interesting flow you guys have here, but i can't make head or tail of it...
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Joopey on March 03, 2007, 12:17:44 AM
In the end only one thing... Money!
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Raptor on March 03, 2007, 05:02:30 AM
Ah... good. That's one thing chinese are always, and have always been. Good at.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Foxhound21 on March 03, 2007, 08:21:16 PM
great Pilots are made not born,A man may posses good eyesight,sensitive hands and perfect coordination but the end product is only fastioned by steady coaching,much practice n' experience.

"LIFE FAVORS THOSE WHO DARE,WHO ARE BARELY RARE YET BELIEVE AND PLAY WITH CONVECTION AND OUTCLASS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BORN TO WIN THE HEARTS FOREVER"
great speech  were did u get it from
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Gripen on March 04, 2007, 02:31:22 AM
what about combat history?
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Raptor on March 10, 2007, 02:52:33 PM
May I call you Shakespeare?    :P

but you did make a good point...

Very good point.
Title: Re: Good Fighter
Post by: Foxhound21 on March 13, 2007, 04:25:38 PM
lets not start figthing in this topic  ;)