JA37 Vs JAS39

[Air Marshal]

Dear Viggen this Image for u..... Check it

http://members.home.nl/hamhendriks/downloads/ja37di_37428_800.jpg

[Viggen]

Dear Viggen
 Wiith respect the correct word is SAB 37 VIGGEN not " JA37 " ....

Back again, after being away for a week..

My sweet  little Air marshall the correct word is SAAB not SAB, and if you read about the fighter then you would know what role the JA37 Viggen plays.

By the way, thanks for the pic. 

[RecceJet]

HOLD EVERYTHING! I could swear I voted for the JAS39, but according to the poll its 8 : 0. Did my vote get lost somehow? I do realise I'm a very small minority... please don't take my one and only vote away  :'( I know I have bad taste in aircraft... I promise to change

[Viggen]

HOLD EVERYTHING! I could swear I voted for the JAS39, but according to the poll its 8 : 0. Did my vote get lost somehow? I do realise I'm a very small minority... please don't take my one and only vote away :'( I know I have bad taste in aircraft... I promise to change

Maybe you clicked the wrong one by mistake, or as you said it got lost.
Anyway, there is one vote then for Gripen. I keep that in mind. 

[Air Marshal]

Back again, after being away for a week..

My sweet  little Air marshall the correct word is SAAB not SAB, and if you read about the fighter then you would know what role the JA37 Viggen plays.

By the way, thanks for the pic. 

Ha Ha Ok dont worry....... 

[Viggen]

Im not worried, but you have a point.

Maybe i should of writtet "AJS", since its the newest model in the viggen series. The majority of the rest is going to the scrapyard.  :'(

Probably thats why i keep hanging on to the good old JA37 model. Developed only for air to air combat, a beast that turn your head and drop you to the knees when its passing above you at low altitude. And probably the only fighter in the world that managed to get a missilelock and fire it on the SR71 Blackbird.
 

[Greekpilot]

I vote for JAS-39 Super Gripen with the EJ200 engine!

I am new and I would like to share this interesting e-mail:



Dear Mr. Ioannidis,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Saab has years ago already investigated the technical and operational
feasibility for re-engineering JAS 39 Gripen with the EJ200 engine.
Both Saab and EUROJET Turbo GmbH concluded that a re-engineering only
shall be considered if there is a customer demand available. From a
technical point of view, the EJ200 engine would fit into the engine bay
of JAS39 Gripen with minor changes applied to the interface connections.
The commercial feasibility of re-engineering JAS39 Gripen would be
supported, if required, by individual business case calculations.

The Thrust vectoring nozzle is offered as an optional item for any of
the EJ200 engine standards.

I hope this answer can help.

Yours sincerely,
Katarina Elbogen

Katarina Elbogen
Executive PR and Political Affairs
EUROJET Turbo GmbH
Lilienthalstr. 2b
85339 Hallbergmoos
E-Mail: k.elbogen@eurojet.de

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From: EJ200@eurojet.de [mailto:EJ200@eurojet.de]
Sent: 22 August 2005 14:22
To: EJ200
Subject: Contact Form



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E U R O J E T C O N T A C T F O R M
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COMPANY:

NAME / FIRSTNAME : Athanasios Ioannidis

STREET / NR: Melandias 10

POSTAL CODE / PLACE: 171 21 Nea Smyrni, Athens, Greece

TELEPHONE :

FAX :

E-MAIL : nassos83@hotmail.com

COMMENTS : Dear Eurojet Turbo,

One of your partners, ITP of Spain, has developed a 3 dimensional TVC
nozzle for EJ200, and also, the company has designed a nozzle for JAS-39
Gripen. It is said that SAAB JAS-39 Gripen will, in the future, be
equiped with this engine. Although the replacement of the Volvo RM12 is
going to cost, do you believe that there is a possibility of an
EJ200-powered Gripen?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
Athanasios Ioannidis
Student


I hope Greece will have as a single engine the Gripen and NOT the JSF!! Not to mention that we already fly the Erieye...

[Webmaster]

Welcome to the forum! Very interesting indeed, thank you for sharing.

[Greekpilot]

I believe SAAB must sell this specific aircraft.  But I also think that the Svenska Flygvapnet MUST reengine their JAS-39 A/B/C/D Gripens. It is going to cost however, but I've heard that the RM12 is not so good. The Viggen's engine, though commercial, it still is a superb one! It is a pity that there wasn't such an engine back in the 80's for  the size of the Gripen.

[Viggen]

Truly intersting, its now under investigation. Hoping to get an answer today. 

[Viggen]

I never got any answers from Volvo Aero/Gripen International, which i find very intresting. From this i think that our friend "Greekpilot" may have right. Either they are trying like hell to fix the problems with the engine or going to make the change to a new engine. They are usally fast to reject any critisism about the Gripen-fighter, but as i wrote earlier. No answers at all, all doors on this subject are currently closed and locked.   

[Greekpilot]

Viggen, I got an answer from Volvo Flygmotor, but I cannot attach it due to information disclosures, e-mail publication limitations etc from the company. They just told me that:

1) There are no such plans ()
2) That EJ200 is not developed for single engine (in the Eurojet site it says it can be used!)

Conclusion: Something is not right. That is why I came in contact with EuroJet Turbo GmbH and they replied me with the message above.
Who knows...

And Gripen International will never reply, unless they create the FAQ webpage. There I asked them about any potential Gripen offer to Greece and which version (eg. Super Gripen)
BTW Gripen will be demonstrated on the Archangel 2005 Airshow at Tanagra AB.