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I found this and thought I would share it.   Is Australia getting more Hornets?   Another part of the story says the F-111 had $200 million spent on spare parts and facilities to keep it flying safely until 2020?   I thought it was 2010 when they wouldn't be safe or cost effective to keep flying because of maintenance reason?    This could lead to the company selling another 26 Super Hornets to Australia and 20 "Growler" aircraft, which specialise in electronic warfare.   I'll be honest I don't know a lot about Australia can somebody tell what's really going on here? 

The whole story
The Hornet's nest
http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/the-hornets-nest/2007/07/08/1183833340924.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2

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Re: Is Australia getting more Super Hornets & Growler aircraft?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2007, 06:09:49 AM »
Well, first of all, there is no such place as Fairbairn air force base. RAAF Base Fairbairn closed down years ago. Its now just a domestic airport with a RAAF squadron located on the other side of the terminal to ferry VIPs around.

When the article says the Super Hornet will fill any capability gap that the F-111 leaves behind, it definitely cannot be referring to either the speed, range or payload of the F-111. I don't think there is any aircraft of the same size that can fill this gap as a modern airframe. The Super Hornet falls well short in this area, and I, too, am totally surprised that the Super Bug was chosen - at such short notice no less! The C-17 Globemaster III acquisition I can kind of understand, but this just doesn't make sense.

The F-16 was always a better aircraft than the F/A-18, but the only reason the Bug was chosen back then was because Australia was looking at using them on a carrier they planned to get from the Royal Navy. Then the Falklands War made the British think twice about getting rid of one of their flat-tops. Now that Australia has pretty much finalised their choice of design for the two new amphibious assault carriers, landing a Super Bug on one of them is out of the question. The RAAF would be better off getting the latest block F-16 instead. Better yet, push to get the F-22. Forget a strike capability, and balance it with the best fighter available.

The RAAF has no dedicated Electronic Warfare platform for the Growler to replace. I seriously doubt the RAAF will ever get the Growler, so that can be passed off as mere speculation. The Wedgetail is the airframe the RAAF will be utilising to cover that role.

And lastly, Carlo Kopp is probably the last person I would listen to for advice about what to do with the F-111s. His solution of making a few alterations to keep the F-111s well into the next decade are laughable. I won't give his recommendations much credibility.

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Re: Is Australia getting more Super Hornets & Growler aircraft?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2007, 03:45:46 PM »
Something seem wrong with this that's why I asked for help, thanks

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Re: Is Australia getting more Super Hornets & Growler aircraft?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 02:52:49 AM »
ReeceJet, do you like Nelson, the Defense minister?

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Re: Is Australia getting more Super Hornets & Growler aircraft?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 06:41:55 AM »
ReeceJet, do you like Nelson, the Defense minister?

I've only met him briefly. I haven't talked to him and don't know enough about him to make that kind of opinion. I definitely would not subscribe to The Age's perception of him, seeing how the rest of their article seems very distorted in my opinion. I'd say he's a good bloke for the job and I would need more evidence to be convinced otherwise. You'd hope a prime minister would place a man such as Dr Brendon Nelson in charge of the ADF only if he trusts him to be accountable for procurements.

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Re: Is Australia getting more Super Hornets & Growler aircraft?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 10:07:41 AM »
I thought head of the ADF was Angus Houston.. or whatever his name is

 



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