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Military Aviation => Military Aircraft => Topic started by: alyster on December 19, 2005, 05:05:58 PM

Title: Plane of the year.
Post by: alyster on December 19, 2005, 05:05:58 PM
It's the end of the year and eveybody are choosing the man of the year or the good thing of the year etc. So I tought we could chose the plane of the year.

If something important is missing from the list, let me know.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on December 19, 2005, 05:11:15 PM
Definately the Gripen, lots of deliveries and good news about it.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Ramon on December 19, 2005, 06:10:11 PM
For me, it will be the F-14 Tomcat. In his last year of opperation and airshow performance.
I will really miss this aircraft in the coming years.  :-[ :'(

Regards, Ramon.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Viggen on December 20, 2005, 07:44:53 AM
I was actually torn betwwen the Gripen and the SU-27. I find the russian aircraft better overall, but since im so patriotic i had to go with the Gripen. Besides, SAAB made some good deals and it is actually competing on the market.  :)
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on December 22, 2005, 12:09:19 AM
So why then would the Su-27 be plane of the year? This poll is not about which aircraft is better. I think 2005 has been the year with the lowest achievements with regards to production, contracts or development for the Su-27 since 1991-1993 perhaps. The only exception being the continued production of the Su-30MKI for 2005.

Having said that. it has certainly been the plane of the year for this website, since I added the Flanker sections this year.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Viggen on December 22, 2005, 08:57:04 AM
Ok, sorry...Then the Flanker could be the plane of the year because of it looks. Or why not SAAB37 Viggen since it retired this year after 30 years in service.  :)
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: alyster on December 22, 2005, 02:26:26 PM
Ok, I added  Viggen.

Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Greekpilot on December 23, 2005, 02:16:57 PM
Typhoon, since the Saudis made a small gift to the UK, Spain, Italy and Germany.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on December 23, 2005, 03:47:24 PM
Yes... but it lost in Singapore.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: alyster on December 26, 2005, 03:21:38 PM
Why does Tomcat get 40% of the votes with it's goodbye and Viggen gets 0?
Did Green Day  - Time of Your Life  have such a big impact with people's hart on the Tomcat goodbye video?
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on December 26, 2005, 03:35:04 PM
Guess it's been in the spotlight a lot...
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: lalanuni on December 28, 2005, 08:35:21 AM
Wat about F-14 Tomcat? anytime time, baby!!............. :'(
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Viggen on December 28, 2005, 12:01:35 PM
I would of voted for Viggen, but i voted for Gripen earlier.. :'(

Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: alyster on January 01, 2006, 03:01:03 PM
I'm glad to present our plane of the year, which got 50% of the votes, which is 4 votes in total. And like you could see above, it's the F-14 Tomcat with it's good bye show. Since F-14 will be out of the loop now, then I wonder who'll win next year  ::)

Happy new year to everybody!

- alyster
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: lalanuni on January 11, 2006, 12:53:46 AM
maybe the Su-30? coz it looks brutal and fierce enough! My vote belong to it.. ;D
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Raptor 1 on May 09, 2006, 11:02:48 PM
well...this is 2006 already but i still would love to tell you my opinion
it's either F-22 Raptor SU-37 Terminator
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on May 10, 2006, 12:57:22 AM
But Su-37 didn't achieve anything in the year 2005... except getting included on this website  :)

F-22 could become plane of the year 2006, keeping a pilot captured in his plane for 5 hours, and some other teething problems relating to a new aircraft entering service, I guess more will follow. Apart from all that, it is entering service fast.

Welcome by the way!
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Raptor on October 14, 2006, 03:55:55 PM
I think the Raptor would snag the position this year. The trapped pilot bit was almost funny when i read the article. Once the teething problems are over, it could make as good a reputation as the Eagle.

The Typhoons lost in Singapore due to safety reasons. The F-15 had the most safety features, as opposed to the Rafale M and EF-2000. With our low manpower, we have to cinserve all the training that we get, so even if a pilot is downed, he'll still live to fly another day.

The book: LIONS of the SKY: Aircraft of the Republic of Singapore Air Force states that 3 aircraft were shortlisted and the F-15 chosen, with the latest in avionics and technology...
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: alyster on December 12, 2006, 08:40:57 PM
I didn't even notice another year is coming to it's end. Should we have another vote?
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on December 13, 2006, 02:06:02 AM
The Typhoons lost in Singapore due to safety reasons. The F-15 had the most safety features, as opposed to the Rafale M and EF-2000. With our low manpower, we have to cinserve all the training that we get, so even if a pilot is downed, he'll still live to fly another day.

It must have been quite a shock then when Korea lost one of its first newly acquired, very similar F-15Ks, pilots killed, and had to ground its other examples until the investigation was finished?

As far as I have read, the Typhoon was turned down already before the final decision because it would not be able to meet the delivery schedule. Final competition was between the Rafale and F-15... but come on, safety features? Maybe if the competition was between the MiG-29 and F-15 that would be a valid argument. Or maybe you misinterpreted it (no offence, it happens), meaning safety features as in EW self defence suite? Then it would make more sense...

I still think it was a political decision, combined with the fact that it already operates a fleet of US fighters, especially those F-16s are still long from retirement.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Webmaster on December 13, 2006, 02:07:17 AM
I didn't even notice another year is coming to it's end. Should we have another vote?

Good idea, go ahead.
Title: Re: Plane of the year.
Post by: Raptor on December 13, 2006, 03:00:44 AM
It must have been quite a shock then when Korea lost one of its first newly acquired, very similar F-15Ks, pilots killed, and had to ground its other examples until the investigation was finished?

As far as I have read, the Typhoon was turned down already before the final decision because it would not be able to meet the delivery schedule. Final competition was between the Rafale and F-15... but come on, safety features? Maybe if the competition was between the MiG-29 and F-15 that would be a valid argument. Or maybe you misinterpreted it (no offence, it happens), meaning safety features as in EW self defence suite? Then it would make more sense...

I still think it was a political decision, combined with the fact that it already operates a fleet of US fighters, especially those F-16s are still long from retirement.

That's Korea. They crash for fun. Singaporeans are more stingy with the aircraft bills.  ;D Just kidding no harm meant. No, it wasn't purely poitical. The decision wasn't wholely made by politicians. Though it's effectively that... The RSAF wanted to make sure that they hade spare parts that could be optimised in BOTH the F-16s and the F-15s. Another reason would be that the maintainence crews would also have to go through more training... and the user manuals, (i hear they're a pain to read) would be really different.