MILAVIA Forum - Military Aviation Discussion Forum

Author Topic: Shortfalls of the World's Best Fighter - The F-22 Raptor  (Read 62174 times)

Offline Raptor

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1388
  • Country: sg
  • What's the next big thing?
Re: Shortfalls of the World's Best Fighter - The F-22 Raptor
« Reply #168 on: December 19, 2008, 09:44:04 AM »
Shawn-
Ah okay... Dial-up... In that case...  ::)

Grip-
Well, theoretically... Another Raptor could just turn on his Radar? And there's no need for dedicated anti-radar. I think plenty of normal air-to-air missiles have radar-homing capabilities.
-JCLim

Offline Gripen

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1390
  • Country: au
  • WHATEVER YOUR PAST, THE FUTURE IS GRIPEN!
Re: Shortfalls of the World's Best Fighter - The F-22 Raptor
« Reply #169 on: December 19, 2008, 12:46:58 PM »
Ok, so if the enemy had a bunch of anti radar/ missiles that aim for radar and a quick as launch set up, isnt it theoretically possible for the enemy to down all the Raptors as they turn on their radar to find the targets?

I know its possible for all planes, but wouldnt this count as a downfall of the worlds 'best' fighter?

Offline SukhoiLover

  • Fighter Ace
  • *****
  • Posts: 269
  • Country: pt
Re: Shortfalls of the World's Best Fighter - The F-22 Raptor
« Reply #170 on: December 19, 2008, 05:12:51 PM »
There is a version of the R-27 that is anti-radar, however an air-to-air anti-radar missile would only be usefull against "normal" radars.
The APG-77 functioning would render such missile useless and the reason is simple, it was designed to not give away the F-22´s position to the enemy, so, if even the RHAWS of the target aircraft can´t see that the aircraft is beeing painted, its not a missle with much less brains that is going to take the F-22 out of the sky.

I think that the only situation were an anti-radar missile shot at the F-22 is plausible is in a scenario that, in my opinion, is completly stupid, that is, the Raptor turning the radar on at max output to try to jam the enemy´s radar. That would certainly make the Raptor very visible, but, since the F-22 certainly has its own ECM gear and that i see no reason why he would try jam enemy radars with its own radar, making himself visible to the enemy, i think that its non-sense to talk about using air-to-air anti-radar missiles against the F-22.

I think that is much more plausible to invest in advanced IRST systems.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2008, 05:18:32 PM by SukhoiLover »
http://sukhoitribute.blogspot.com/

English version: http://sukhoitributeenglish.blogspot.com/


Pavel be proud of your legacy!!!!

Offline Raptor

  • General of Flight
  • *******
  • Posts: 1388
  • Country: sg
  • What's the next big thing?
Re: Shortfalls of the World's Best Fighter - The F-22 Raptor
« Reply #171 on: December 20, 2008, 04:46:16 AM »
I think it would be a great idea if some pilots learnt how to use guns (With a gun-sight), as that seems to be the only weapon you can't effectively defend against.

And Grip, SukhoiLover is right. Theoretically every of those missiles can be jammed.
-JCLim

 



AVIATION TOP 100 - www.avitop.com click to vote for MILAVIA