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Title: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on December 22, 2006, 01:18:26 PM
Hey guys!

Post your favourite picture or pictures of fighters with their AFB burning up the skies.  ;D

Here is some of my favourites.  :D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: giel on December 22, 2006, 02:23:17 PM
belgian tiger power ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 20, 2007, 02:02:15 AM
(http://www.afterburnerseminars.com/resource/downloads/hi_res/F14-2.jpg)

(http://www.screensaverjapan.com/machine/f14/f14.jpg)


(http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/air-recent/f-111-02.jpg)


(http://www.theaircraftgallery.com/planes/f-15/f15_3.jpg)


(http://www.zap16.com/images/vlk04%20f16%20klu%20base%20attack%2002.jpg)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 28, 2007, 01:23:40 PM
Has anyone seen the afterburner of the MiG-23 "Flogger G"?? I don't have a photo, but the "rings" it leaves are really nice ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 28, 2007, 05:08:52 PM
Heres one:

(http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/colinspictures/images/aircraft/mig23/s005a_084.jpg)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 28, 2007, 05:19:09 PM
can you put the url? it seems the photo does not appear
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 28, 2007, 05:27:24 PM
http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/colinspictures/images/aircraft/mig23/s005a_084.jpg

Here, I got it from google.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on January 28, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
nope still dosent work. just that picture of fortune city
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 29, 2007, 12:18:36 AM
What the heck...  ??? its working for me..oh well.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 29, 2007, 07:40:53 PM
so... tell s, what do you put on google ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 29, 2007, 10:58:10 PM
Just look up planes and military stuff ;) tell us Globetrotter, what do you put on google  ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 29, 2007, 10:59:51 PM
No, I think you didn't understand me well. What I meant is: what did you put on google, for that MiG-23 afterburner to show up,  so hat we now put the same and finally can see it
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 29, 2007, 11:13:50 PM
Oh  :-[ 
All I put was under pictures "MiG-23" and its to the far right on the first page. After you look at it look at this MiG-35:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JovhuJAFbdk

I didnt know it was called a MiG-35 (the MiG-29 OVT) ...then Area00 must have messed up because their MiG-39 (MiG-1.42) also calls it a MiG-35...hhmm...anyway, thanks for clearing that up.
BTW, I always liked the MiG-29 but now with thrust vectoring  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 29, 2007, 11:23:25 PM
Yes, nice picture!!

I always say that if the devil would have an aircraft,it would be the 23 >:D

(http://www.lindenhillimports.com/images/mig-23_11.jpg)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on January 30, 2007, 11:19:59 PM
Thanks...I thought you would like it  ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on January 30, 2007, 11:51:16 PM
its not an afterburner..but still







actually.. i think it is.. Dump n burn???
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 30, 2007, 11:56:55 PM
yeah, dump 'n' burn it is :) Really cool >:D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on January 31, 2007, 02:42:34 AM
Thats cheating guys!!  ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on January 31, 2007, 05:24:48 AM
well.. he has to use the AFB to light it dosent he?
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on January 31, 2007, 08:03:19 AM
AFB is Air Force Base. =.=
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: giel on January 31, 2007, 07:12:48 PM
Dump n burn???

what's that????? ???
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on January 31, 2007, 07:34:31 PM
What they do is to throw some fuel from the plnae, and, as it is dumped by the pipe that is just over the engines, the fuel burns when the afterburners are on. Simple,and cool ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on January 31, 2007, 09:32:39 PM
Well, the point is just to show off the afterburners.  Sure dumpĀ“n burn is cool, but is is more in the category of special effects.  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 01, 2007, 12:51:18 AM
Yeah pretty much...but its still very cool  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on February 01, 2007, 01:06:09 AM
What they do is to throw some fuel from the plnae, and, as it is dumped by the pipe that is just over the engines, the fuel burns when the afterburners are on. Simple,and cool ;D

the after burners need to ignite the fuel.. so techinqaully, it is on afterburner but you cant see it :)

AFB is Air Force Base. =.=

AFB is in America.. Everywhere else its Air Base.. or defence establishment (ergh thats a sucky name.. stupid Austrialian Government >:( )
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 01, 2007, 01:13:50 AM
Yeah, so why is it show me your AFB? did he mean AB? for after burner.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on February 01, 2007, 01:15:16 AM
id call it the GB..Go Button >:)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Top_Gun on February 01, 2007, 03:16:40 AM
AFB is Air Force Base. =.=

glad I'm not the only one that was lost on that.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on February 01, 2007, 05:21:27 AM
oh i like that raptor pic
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on February 01, 2007, 05:54:19 AM
AFB is in America.. Everywhere else its Air Base.. or defence establishment (ergh thats a sucky name.. stupid Austrialian Government >:( )

Ok. I agree. It's air base here. I think.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on February 01, 2007, 07:02:46 AM
In magazines i usally see "afb" as short for afterburner, both in english and swedish ones. As for "Air force base", the short for that one is "AB".  Thought you guys knew this and seen it yourselfs in magz.  :-\


"State Tiger Fast"  ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Top_Gun on February 01, 2007, 02:40:58 PM
I can only speak for US Military bases, but it's always abbreviated as AFB

Air Force Link (http://138.145.200.39/search?q=AFB&client=AFLINK&proxystylesheet=AFLINK&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&output=xml_no_dtd&site=AFLINK&btnG.x=11&btnG.y=9)

Must be like Aeroplane and airplane  ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 01, 2007, 10:25:00 PM
Haha. Yeah, I usually see AFB but maybe its different in other mags and stuff.
BTW, I've been recieving Aviation History and still have like 11 months left...its a nice one...the History Channel mag has a 'Dogfights' part...after its show 'Dogfights'.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on February 02, 2007, 12:50:51 AM
Must be like Aeroplane and airplane  ;D

You probably have a point there. But you guys knew what i mean and the pics put up is of afterburners not bases so, no harm done.  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on February 02, 2007, 06:37:54 AM
Yupp, I agree.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 02, 2007, 11:00:18 PM
Me too  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Top_Gun on February 03, 2007, 02:40:56 AM
You probably have a point there. But you guys knew what i mean and the pics put up is of afterburners not bases so, no harm done.  :)

Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say anything. Just that it took me 2 pages to understand you meant Burners and not bases.  ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on February 03, 2007, 08:10:35 AM
Oh, come on, it's obvious by the FIRST page...
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 03, 2007, 06:54:31 PM
Haha...yeah but its ok.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on February 05, 2007, 05:02:50 AM
Its ok Top Gun. But you get to fly that well known cargoplane out of Hong Kong now...  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on February 05, 2007, 08:03:29 AM
What cargoplane? What's the topic now?  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on February 05, 2007, 04:58:40 PM
What cargoplane? What's the topic now?  ??? ??? ???

I take that back Top Gun, Raptor is now the pilot of that cargoplane. (Cant belive he has not seen the movie Top Gun)... ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Webmaster on February 06, 2007, 01:35:06 AM
I can only speak for US Military bases, but it's always abbreviated as AFB

Air Force Link (http://138.145.200.39/search?q=AFB&client=AFLINK&proxystylesheet=AFLINK&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&output=xml_no_dtd&site=AFLINK&btnG.x=11&btnG.y=9)

Must be like Aeroplane and airplane  ;D

Yup, when I first opened this topic I also thought it was about Air Force Bases. AB is Air Base, for the US military that's a different thing than an AFB, because AB is commonly used for foreign airbases. One of the few exceptions being UK bases, the RAF calls their airbases stations, they just add RAF in front of the name. So you can have an USAF F-16 from AFB Edwards visit RAF Fairford in the UK before going on to Ramstein AB in Germany, yet all those are USAF bases.  :P  ::)

Personally I have never seen afb or AFB used for afterburner... only A/B or AB, would still have been confusing though :P
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Top_Gun on February 07, 2007, 05:14:53 PM
the only burners I get to see are at airshows, my local base as a noise abatement where planes can't use burners.. ::)

We had some F-16s stationed here while their ramp was being repaired and when Corey Little's plane crashed into the NYC Building they launched 4 Vipers out of here with FULL Burners. I work about a mile away and it was awesome hearing that sound ;D

Not sure if this guy was showing off or was a weight issue as he was the only 1 of the 6 ship that took off using burners
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on February 07, 2007, 07:27:38 PM
well he doesn't seem very heavy... ::)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 07, 2007, 10:58:06 PM
Haha it looks light to me  ::)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on February 09, 2007, 06:21:06 AM
Hm i think afterburners should be afb lower case...
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 09, 2007, 07:21:21 PM
I like A/B or AB better.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on February 10, 2007, 01:59:16 AM
I like G/B

or F/W
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on February 10, 2007, 04:54:38 AM
I've heard you say G/B as go button but whats F/W? oh wait is it fast forward?  :D is that it??
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on February 10, 2007, 06:23:56 AM
no, fuel waster.. but fast forward works to
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on February 15, 2007, 11:17:45 AM
Keep it  to the topic guys.... :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on February 27, 2007, 08:57:36 AM
Puh-leeze, Cobra, that is so overused.

Back to topic. Wooooo. I think i just heard a sonic boom. It's ah, hang on... F-16D Block 52+. RSAF. Cool.
I didn't have a camera to catch the afb, sorry, but that was so cool.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on March 01, 2007, 06:39:52 AM
Ok. Here's an F-111
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on March 01, 2007, 06:23:02 PM
That aint an afterburner, its a fueldump.   :P
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on March 01, 2007, 11:30:43 PM
Yeah, a Dump N' Burn...but still really cool  >:D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on March 02, 2007, 07:53:47 AM
Did i say it was afb? No. I did not!
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on March 02, 2007, 08:38:37 AM
OMG

we are back to this? ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH >:(
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on March 02, 2007, 12:50:42 PM
Did i say it was afb? No. I did not!

No. but i asked you to post pics of   a f t e r b u r n e r s.  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on March 02, 2007, 08:13:05 PM
Yeah we know you knew...but its for afterburners  ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Joopey on March 03, 2007, 12:02:55 AM
Made this one myself at the Leeuwarden Open House 2006 (pretty proud too!).
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on March 03, 2007, 12:13:39 AM
cool :D thx for sharing!
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Foxhound21 on March 03, 2007, 08:41:33 PM
that pretty cool :o :o :o
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on March 04, 2007, 02:28:45 AM
hmm.. are they flares? or something else?
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on March 04, 2007, 06:07:58 AM
Flares  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on March 04, 2007, 02:31:52 PM
Of course it flares. I think it was the Russian Knights who started using flares during airshows. The rest is now following the trend.  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on March 05, 2007, 09:05:49 AM
meh.. id rather the Dump N Burn over flares :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on March 05, 2007, 09:25:42 PM
I like them both :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Flanker.94 on April 15, 2007, 02:40:59 AM
Here is a picture of a Polish Lim 6bis (Mig-17 Fresco):
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Flanker.94 on April 15, 2007, 02:44:09 AM
Viggen, you never said we had to show aircrafts with afterburner.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on April 15, 2007, 05:22:49 AM
 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on April 15, 2007, 09:32:46 AM
Yikes, that mustve been a fun ride!
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: giel on April 15, 2007, 12:22:24 PM
hahahaha :o :o :o does he lives on the moon now?? ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on April 15, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
I don't know if I entirely believe that photo or not  :-\ It looks real...but see the way he is doing the stunt? I would think that would make the ski frip a bunch of times really fast  :-\ Unless he was sitting on the seat but he's not.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on April 15, 2007, 07:53:40 PM
Viggen, you never said we had to show aircrafts with afterburner.

True..You got me!!

But the pic is a fake, it looks like a missile launch from a sub or a surfaceship. However it does look cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on April 15, 2007, 08:08:46 PM
Yay I knew it!!! and I saw this video of an F-15 Eagle supposedly launched from a sub. What a bunch of junk. You can tell it is fake. I mean really, if you know anything about aviation you would know this is fake. First of all the F-15 isn't big enough to fit a rocket engine like that in it and it is obviusly edited  ::)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6084166636389127522&q=F-15+launched+from+sub&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6084166636389127522&q=F-15+launched+from+sub&hl=en)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Viggen on April 15, 2007, 11:52:09 PM
Lots of fake pics and clips out there, but some are made really good and they are cool to look at.  :)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on June 01, 2007, 07:30:56 AM
It's the most fake video i've ever seen. The angle the plane turns after ignition is so wrong too... And it doesn't look like it came from a jet engine... Take the amount of fuel burnt during ignition for something that heavy. Blam. No more fuel.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: tigershark on June 02, 2007, 12:46:11 AM
Talking about fake videos I just saw one of a J-10 coming out of this killer flat spin just to find out it's a model plane.  I person who put the video up must have pulled it because I can't find it now, I was fooled big time.   I would assume that was a missile launched from a sub ( PS Photoshop) job  with that F-15 but it really could be many things.     
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on June 23, 2007, 10:15:25 AM
Hm... Honestly? Have you ever tried using a pump in a bathtub before? It's not too difficult to change the background and, of course, add that lame F-15 with those smoke trails.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on August 04, 2007, 08:00:19 PM
Raptor...the F-15 is not lame...I mean, if you want lame just look at the Dumb Duck aka the F-22...no offense to it. And yeah thats what I thought when I first saw it nonpilot. It is a missile launched from a sub in real life and edited with some software. And no fuel would be left, and a rocket engine would not fit without huge adjustments to the airframe and the plane would most likely spiral out of control.  ::)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on August 08, 2007, 09:59:21 AM
Bingo. The F-15 doesn't look real. Freeze the image and do a close up. (Not sure if you can see it as clearly). I love the Eagle and all but the way they did it is just lame. Saltwater shouldn't settle as fast as that. And even, assuming that the rocket engines can be fitted in, the entire airframe would be ripped to shreds. You do understand we're way off?
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on August 08, 2007, 10:29:23 PM
Of course I do Raptor  :D Whats your point?  >:D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on August 14, 2007, 11:59:29 AM
My point is that the person who did the movie is either six years old or ABSOLUTELY clueless. I can do a more realistic launch. No, i am not doing one for you because it just plain defies physics. Newton's third law. So with that kind of speed, and with fluid friction, heat and gravity all working together, you get instant scrap. Vio-lah.

Is it possible to do a vertical if you just click on the afterburners?
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Globetrotter on August 14, 2007, 04:45:39 PM
well, I guess that if you have a 1+ thrust to weight ratio.... >:D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on August 15, 2007, 02:53:47 AM
I meant whats you point about being off topic. A joke lol
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on August 18, 2007, 02:28:13 PM
Oooh. I'd love to watch an airframe that can take that type of strain. Cobra. Go build one. Lol okay, i see.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on August 18, 2007, 05:10:40 PM
Ok, I will name it the FASPIR-52.

Fighter-Attacker-Anti-Submarine-Patrol-Interdictor-Recon-52

Reporting Name.... FASPIR-52 Air Dragon
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Gripen on August 19, 2007, 05:00:24 AM
Thats just stupid
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on August 21, 2007, 12:23:24 PM
Fighter-Attacker-ASW-Interdictor-Recon-EW(EA)-66

In tribute to the AGM-66 Maverick.

SIRFAEA-66 Surfer Dude. Deployed mainly from Hawaii. Btw, i moved the letters around a bit.
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on August 23, 2007, 01:21:28 AM
AGM-65 Maverick  ;)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on August 29, 2007, 06:31:26 AM
Whups. Typo.   :-X :-\ ::)
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on August 30, 2007, 09:43:17 PM
Its fine...I'll hold it against you though if you don't say the F-15 is the best fighter in the world.  >:D

And I just realised that I was gone for months and came back and I still had more posts then you  ;D
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on September 10, 2007, 11:30:22 AM
I really haven't had much time to post...  :(

Trying to work on some lit research paper... Haven't made much headway...  :( :( :( And it's EOYs period now...
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on September 13, 2007, 12:32:33 AM
Oh that sucks  :-\
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on September 15, 2007, 11:10:21 AM
Lol yeah. Finished 4 papers already. Still have physics and general science, mother tongues, and math.  :P

Oh yeah and lit. Don't know when that one is coming. But i'm looking forward to it.  ;D

What about you, Cobra?
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Cobra2 on September 29, 2007, 07:02:28 AM
Kind of the same. But what is mother tongues?  ??? maybe it is something that we have here only I have never heard of it with that name. Favorite is ofcourse history, english, and science. Math is ok but time consuming lol
Title: Re: Show me your AFB!!!
Post by: Raptor on October 01, 2007, 09:21:28 AM
MT is the language that the race is supposed to speak. So the Indians have Tamil, Chinese (or actually "bananas" (Yellow outside, white inside ;D)) get Chinese (Which sucks) and the Malays get malay, and the Eurasians get one of them, depending on ancestry, and Europeans or amerikans or whatever get to skip class.  ;D