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Military Aviation => Military Aviation News => Topic started by: Viggen on August 16, 2009, 04:26:19 PM

Title: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: Viggen on August 16, 2009, 04:26:19 PM
Just recived the info, accident happend 2-3 hours ago.

Two Su-27´s collided today at an airshow right outside of Moscow. Russkie Vitayzi (Russian Knights).

This is a very serious accident. One pilot is killed (Igor Tkatjenko) the other one has a broken spine. The other two are injuerd but in stabile condition. Five people on the ground have also been injured. The remains of both aircraft after the collision crashed on top of a house.

Source: Ria-Novosti and Aftonbladet.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090816/155824125.html
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: F-111 C/C on August 16, 2009, 04:50:31 PM
I wonder if that's the MAKS show that Shawn went to?
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: Viggen on August 16, 2009, 04:52:37 PM
Yes, this was during practice for the MAKS 2009. Think it starts on monday or tuesday.  :(
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: F-111 C/C on August 16, 2009, 05:16:16 PM
I think the Russian Knights are one of the few demonstration teams I have yet to see perform live.
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: AVIATOR on August 17, 2009, 06:17:40 AM
It was just on the mid day news here. Video of the crash. Flamer.
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: Viggen on August 17, 2009, 12:34:53 PM
Small update...

The dead pilot, parachute reportedly caught fire in the air.

According to preliminary investigations, the accident was most likely caused by pilot error during an aerobatics maneuver, although the possibility of a technical failure has not been ruled out.

On-board recording devices have been found at the scene of the accident, and the investigators continue to recover the main parts of the aircraft for further analysis.

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/Patrik72/Misc/155828931.jpg)

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/Patrik72/Misc/155828936.jpg)

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/Patrik72/Misc/155828941.jpg)

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/Patrik72/Misc/155828982.jpg)

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/Patrik72/Misc/155828946.jpg)

Source: Ria Novosti - Text & Photos
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090817/155830719.html
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: Gripen on August 17, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Whats the 4th pic down?
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: Viggen on August 17, 2009, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: Gripen on August 17, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Whats the 4th pic down?

The ACC?

I have not a clue, Sukhoilover might give us an aswer on this.
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: F-111 C/C on August 17, 2009, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: Viggen on August 17, 2009, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: Gripen on August 17, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Whats the 4th pic down?

The ACC?

I have not a clue, Sukhoilover might give us an aswer on this.

Looks like a JFS (jet fuel starter) to me or an APU.
Title: Re: 2 Russian Su 27´s in violent crash today at airshow
Post by: Webmaster on August 17, 2009, 04:45:24 PM
Yeah, combination of both I suppose, I don't know much about it, but I think it's the VKA unit which goes on the AL-31F...  is that the gas-turbine starter in the middle (GTDE-117)? The other two are drive shafts/rotational gears? At the back there should be two aggregates or pumps... as in this picture the attached picture?

Not 100% sure though... help me F-111C/C, what's what?