Convair F-106 vs Mc Donnel Douglas F-4B Phantom

[Webmaster]

Yeah maybe, 5 kills were scored with the AIM-4.

[Raptor]

5 kills. Pffft.Think about the legendary AIM-9 next to that. Bahahaha. Or the Phoenix. AIM-52, correct?

Cheer up, laddie buck. The yankees aren't that bad.

[Webmaster]

AIM-54, but that's post-Nam, actually originates from the AIM-4 via the AIM-47.

[valkyrian]

Right Webmaster,  the mighty AIM-47 and AN/ASG 18 weapon system which became the AIM-54 Phoenix and AWG-9.....

Who shot down with AIM-4 and become an Ace? I can think of R. Cunnigham (US Navy F-4J) but he used Aim-9s)...

Guys, even though i'm a Phantom Lover, i think that the -6 was a better interceptor (of course it hadn't the F-4's radar but if the production were to be continued a new radar would be for sure!)
 Some strong points of the -6 :

Less drag when loaded with weapons ( this today implies to the F-22 believers!!)

Probably lower RCS (due to the above)

Very fast !

Very automated (the pilot was essentially a weapons system manager)


and very powerful (Genie, the nuclear warheaded air to air missile)

[Raptor]

Hm. Can't remember who. I think they already had a couple of kills. 2 folks, dude.

I think they were shot down just after they scored. But were picked up by their A/C carrier.

[tasoscorsair]

Right Webmaster,  the mighty AIM-47 and AN/ASG 18 weapon system which became the AIM-54 Phoenix and AWG-9.....

Who shot down with AIM-4 and become an Ace? I can think of R. Cunnigham (US Navy F-4J) but he used Aim-9s)...

Guys, even though i'm a Phantom Lover, i think that the -6 was a better interceptor (of course it hadn't the F-4's radar but if the production were to be continued a new radar would be for sure!)
 Some strong points of the -6 :

Less drag when loaded with weapons ( this today implies to the F-22 believers!!)

Probably lower RCS (due to the above)

Very fast !

Very automated (the pilot was essentially a weapons system manager)


and very powerful (Genie, the nuclear warheaded air to air missile)

Val, do you know if the AIM-4 ever was in service with HAF?

propably if it did it must have been with the F-102 at the early 70's....

[valkyrian]

Since we had some F-102 operating during the 70's, Falcon was surely in HAF arsenal....

[Raptor]

does anybody know the cross-sectional area of the F-106 as compared to the '4...? It might help this discussion... Unless it's been mentioned already and i didn't notice.