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Historic Aviation => Warbirds => Topic started by: WRCKid on February 03, 2006, 12:29:58 AM

Title: Name the Aircraft
Post by: WRCKid on February 03, 2006, 12:29:58 AM
Does anyone know what kind of Aircraft this is? I stumbled accross it on the internet.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: RecceJet on February 03, 2006, 06:59:40 AM
It looks Russian (Soviet) with Surface-to-Surface Missiles on top of the fuselage.

Just completed a very basic search for it. Different sites call it different names. I got CS-29 "Caspain Sea Monster" and Lun-class "Wing In Ground Effect".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_Wing-In-Ground-Effect_craft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_Wing-In-Ground-Effect_craft)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekranoplan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekranoplan)

Used in the Caspian and Black Seas by the looks of it. I don't have any other information at this stage, but it definitely sparked my interest.

Webmaster edit: picture link not working, pls do not 'hotlink' without permission, uploaded instead.

I've seen Ekranoplans before, but never that baby you've got there!  :o



Ok...I found a pretty good site about Russian Ekranoplans. The "Lun" is illustrated there, with specifications:
http://aquaglide.ru/history_e.htm (http://aquaglide.ru/history_e.htm)
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Ekranoplan "Lun"
Dimensions:           73.8 х 44.0 х 19.0m
Cruising speed:      550Km/h
Range:                  2500Km

Ok...and one more link that actually explains the concept of WIG craft quite well:
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=1306&P=1 (http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=1306&P=1)
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Viggen on February 03, 2006, 12:21:56 PM
I´ve seen it in a documentary. This aircraft is used to deliver troops in a fast way. This russian aircraft flies approx 1-2 meters above the water surface. It has the looks of an aircraft, but its more of a boat with an twist.  :)
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: WRCKid on February 03, 2006, 09:35:06 PM
Thanks, fellahs!!! I had no idea this was an actual russian secret project.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Webmaster on February 04, 2006, 02:41:59 AM
I had a nice reply typed out, but opened a picture in this window and lost it...don't want to type it all again. Do a little google search and you'll find a lot of WIG/Ekranoplan related sites. For now, you'll have to be satisfied with this picture as my contribution to the discussion.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on March 01, 2007, 06:01:13 AM
Secret Project? You kid me not?
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Gripen on March 01, 2007, 06:05:02 AM
theres something like this thing in Metal Gear Solid 3, when you are in Russia escaping the bad guys..

Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on March 01, 2007, 06:07:32 AM
Sweet. I thought ekranoplanes were all turboprop, not jet-powered.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: WRCKid on April 30, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
Found this one, looks like a sea turtle to me...
(http://aeroweb.lucia.it/rap/Monino/mon94ag_vva14_12o.jpg)
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: WRCKid on April 30, 2007, 09:33:36 PM
found a little more on this...

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/rap/RAFAQ/WIG.html
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Webmaster on May 01, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
Found this one, looks like a sea turtle to me...
(http://aeroweb.lucia.it/rap/Monino/mon94ag_vva14_12o.jpg)

That one lost its wings, that's why it looks so strange.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on June 01, 2007, 07:37:22 AM
HAHA. Lost it's wings! HA!
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Gripen on June 01, 2007, 08:55:35 AM
It looks strange WITH wings
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: valkyrian on June 11, 2007, 09:50:37 PM
I think you found one of Bartini's (or Bertini) designs. Italian engineer who lived in Russia.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Webmaster on June 11, 2007, 11:06:57 PM
It's the Beriev VVA-14. Was the Italian employed by Beriev OKB?

Anyway, it's not really an ekranoplan.

Here are some more pictures:
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Gripen on June 14, 2007, 11:07:04 AM
Well its not winning any points for looks...
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on July 11, 2007, 10:02:07 AM
It looks just plain stupid.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Viggen on July 17, 2007, 03:55:33 PM
I had a nice reply typed out, but opened a picture in this window and lost it...don't want to type it all again. Do a little google search and you'll find a lot of WIG/Ekranoplan related sites. For now, you'll have to be satisfied with this picture as my contribution to the discussion.

Here is a video of the WIG/Ekranoplan....
http://www.aviapedia.com/transports/ekranoplans-caspian-sea-monster-video
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 08, 2007, 10:04:03 AM
Oooh. Cool. SEA MONSTER.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Cobra2 on August 08, 2007, 10:34:29 PM
Hahah sea monster.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 14, 2007, 11:50:18 AM
i had an MCQ test one that had the reply as "a great sea monster emerged from the sea."

Lol. Now that i think of it, that big plane up there looks like an inflatable survival raft...
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Cobra2 on August 15, 2007, 02:59:38 AM
Inlfatible survival raft with two jet engines on top....mwuahahahaha
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Gripen on August 16, 2007, 01:10:15 AM
Its Russia, they did crazy things. A jet powered survival raft wouldnt surprse me
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 18, 2007, 02:22:19 PM
Jet-powered survival raft with incredibly large oars.
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Cobra2 on August 18, 2007, 05:15:03 PM
Not to change the subject but where has Terminator and Foxhound been???
Title: Re: Name the Aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 21, 2007, 12:36:42 PM
I don't know. Stufying? maybe school or something. It's exam period over here. But, well, i got 100 by watching TV till 12 just before the exam before. Though that isn't very late... Down here.

Hey, that "jet powered inflatable raft" idea isn't so far-fetched. Maybe with a bit of tinkering, we could build a flying whatjamacallit? Hovercraft.