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Historic Aviation => Warbirds => Topic started by: Raptor on February 27, 2007, 09:03:47 AM

Title: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: Raptor on February 27, 2007, 09:03:47 AM

Put what you think to be and tell everyone what you put. Ha.

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: alyster on February 27, 2007, 03:32:36 PM

Erich Hartman 352 victories. All on eastern front from 1942-45 if I'm not mistaking. His advangae was the low rank due to which he was able to fight alot.
Some dude had 301, just can't remember who.
BTW you have G. Rall twice.

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: Cobra2 on February 27, 2007, 06:54:25 PM

I voted Erich Hartmann also because he is obviusly the biggest ace in there :) Thats who I looked for as soon as I saw this thread :)

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: Raptor on February 28, 2007, 07:17:06 AM

Bingo. Ok, as you guys have given the answers already. Here's the top 10 highest scoring aces in history.

1. Erich Hartmann: 352 kills
2. Gerhard Barkhorn: 301 kills
3. Gunther Rall: 275 kills
4. Otto Kittel: 267 kills
5. Walter Nowotny: 258 kills
6. Wilhelm Batz: 237 kills
7. Erich Rudorffer: 222 kills
8. Heinrich Bar: 220 kills
9. Hermann Graf: 212 kills
10. Heinrich Ehrler: 209 kills

As you can see, they're all Germans. Co-incidentially, all fighting on the Eastern Front.

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: alyster on February 28, 2007, 02:32:36 PM

The second highest ace on a jet airplane should also be a German with 16 kills.

On eastern front russians always had 3-4 times more planes. The numbers ought to be vice-versa, but Red Airforce gave new meaning to the word suck.

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: Foxhound21 on February 28, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

              The 300 club
             Aces of all Aces
1) Erich Hartmann
2) Gerhard Barkhorn

                The 200 club
3) Gunther Rall
4)Otto Kittel
5)Walter Nowotny
6)Wilhelm Bat
7)Erich Rudorffer
8)Heinrich Bar
9)Hermann Graf
10) Heinrich Ehrler

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: alyster on February 28, 2007, 06:15:36 PM

The 200 club is longer
11)Theodor Weissenberger 208
12)Hans Phillipp 206
13)Walter Schuck 206
14)Anton Hafner 204
15)Helmut Lipfert 203

And over 90 Luftwaffe pilots got 100 or more kills. (including 2 night fighters)

Luftwaffe had over 2500 aces.

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: Foxhound21 on February 28, 2007, 08:03:36 PM

i kno but is too many ppl to list

Title: Re: The Top-Scoring Aces of WWII
Post by: Raptor on March 01, 2007, 05:12:07 AM

Ok. here's the club.

300 and ABOVE.
1. Erich Hartmann: 352 kills
2. Gerhard Barkhorn: 301 kills
200 to 299
3. Gunther Rall: 275 kills
4. Otto Kittel: 267 kills
5. Walter Nowotny: 258 kills
6. Wilhelm Batz: 237 kills
7. Erich Rudorffer: 222 kills
8. Heinrich Bar: 220 kills
9. Hermann Graf: 212 kills
10. Heinrich Ehrler: 209 kills
11. Theodore Weissenburger: 208 kills
12. Hans Philip: 206 kills
13. Walter Schuck: 206 kills, tied with Hans Philip.
14. Anton Hafner: 204 kills
15. Helmut Lipfert: 203 kills

Ok. The 100 and above list is too long for me to type out. Sorry.
Top night fighter ace: Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer: 121 kills, all at night
Most kills in ONE DAY: Emil Lang: 18 kills in one day
Most kills in a SINGLE MISSION: Erich Rudorffer: 13 kills in one mission
Highest scoring pilot flying against the RAF: Hans-Joachim Marseille: 158 victories, all against the RAF and the constituent British Commonwealth in North Africa.
First to top the Red Baron & first to reach 100 kills: Werner Molders

So now we have an idea of how excellently the Luftwaffe performed...we can discuss it on the Debate boards.