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A-4 Skyhawk
« on: April 13, 2009, 08:01:22 PM »
hello all!
my name is David...nice to meet you.I grown up as a huge aviation fan in Israeli Air Force where i was serving the A-4's Skyhawks. i would love to know whether there is other air forces that use this old stallion
by the way? in our air force the squadron of Skyhawks is the largest in the army
waiting for your posts hope that this thread will grow into interesting conversation
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 04:08:21 AM »
Singapore still operates some (around 8 I think), they have been fitted with the F404 engine and are based in France for pilot training (Singapore doesn't have a great deal of airspace).
Brazilian Navy operates the A-4 from their sole carrier, they are refurbished former Kuwaiti A-4KUs.
Argentina Air Force operates the A-4M, but modernized version with AN/APG-66V2, known as A-4AR.
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 04:28:17 AM »
Hi Eldorado82

Some Skyhawk's are listed at the below event according to this article.

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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2009, 05:10:19 PM »
The Singapore A-4SUs have an upgraded avionics suite too (but they're called "super skyhawks") I had a friend go over to france for training recently. Apparently he was too short for the American trainers.  ::)
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2009, 05:39:48 PM »
The Singapore A-4SUs have an upgraded avionics suite too (but they're called "super skyhawks") I had a friend go over to france for training recently. Apparently he was too short for the American trainers.  ::)

C'mon now, don't you mean 'vertically challenged'?
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2009, 03:11:03 PM »
So, he got the job, went to France, and then they realized this? I am confused, I've had all my dimensions measured before coming anywhere close to (not) being selected for the job...

What's he doing now? Went to another type? Helicopter?
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2009, 05:18:09 PM »
C'mon now, don't you mean 'vertically challenged'?

Indeed now..  ;D

So, he got the job, went to France, and then they realized this? I am confused, I've had all my dimensions measured before coming anywhere close to (not) being selected for the job...

What's he doing now? Went to another type? Helicopter?

No, no what i meant was that with his results (he was a certified pilot BEFORE the air force) he could have gotten into some of the "cooler" aircraft (such as the F-15), but because of his.. Vertical problem.. Landed up in France after a short stint in Australia. I'm not sure where he's headed to now. May be fighter.. Not sure though.  :-\
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2009, 07:43:42 AM »
Ok Eldorado,
So what is the roll rate of your favorite puppy?

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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 08:38:20 PM »
to tell you the truth i never know A-4's roll rate.  ??? ??? have i missed anything in my service?....
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 03:41:49 AM »
The roll rate is 720 degrees per second with a limitation of 2 rolls
before the front and back of the airplane switch positions uncontrollably
with a dynamic called roll coupling.
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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 08:35:00 AM »
The roll rate is 720 degrees per second with a limitation of 2 rolls
before the front and back of the airplane switch positions uncontrollably
with a dynamic called roll coupling.
That sounds like something you'll want to do before a meal then!  :-X

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Re: A-4 Skyhawk
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2009, 05:57:18 AM »
Eldorado,
I've heard conflicting reports on the roll rate, which is why I asked.
One A-4 pilot at Nellis confirmed the 720 figure, (this was well after all A-4s were out of US sevice, his was a target tug, or something, from a private company).
Another aerobatic pilot I know was also curious, and never found anything like that in his research. He came up with 380 degrees per second (which, by the way, is still pretty darn impressive!)
Do you know the reason for the lack of "skin" on the rudder?
Shawn A.

 



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